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doogie
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posted September 02, 2003 05:50 AM
OK... I have a 5 month old Golden Retriever that I've been crate training since I brought her home last May. She has NEVER gone in the crate - so, as far as that is concerned - I guess it worked great. BUT... whenever she is out of the crate and in the house - she just goes potty whenever she has to... wherever she is... living room, dining room... just goes. I can't seem to stop her. The only way is to ask her if she has to go potty about every 30 mins... if you bring her out every half hr, she will go to her spot and go... but if you don't ask her, she just goes in the house. What am I doing wrong? Why doesn't she go to the door and let me know she has to go? Anyone else ever see this?
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doogie
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posted September 02, 2003 05:52 AM
Sorry - I posted this twice... I got an error when I posted it the 1st time - I didn't think it went through.
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posted September 02, 2003 07:32 AM
The purpose of crate training is to keep them in the crate when you are not right there with them. So, if she's out of the crate, you will probably need to take her out every 30 minutes until she gets the hang of it. You can either, keep her in the crate unless you're right there with her. Or you can begin taking her out every 30 minutes. Maybe move it up 5 or so minutes every week. So the second week, take her out every 35 minutes. The third week, take her out every 40 minutes. She'll get the hang of it.
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doogie
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posted September 02, 2003 07:59 AM
So... this is normal? I wasn't sure if she was doing something that is not expected... she is my first dog...
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posted September 02, 2003 08:44 AM
It is normal. It's not exactly how crate training should work. I think you might have gone about it a bit wrong. Just remember that if you aren't there to watch her to make sure she doesn't go in the house, put her in her crate. Always take her out right after she eats. It also seems that most dogs will need to go right after they have a bath. If you want her out of the crate but need to do other things around the house, take a leash of about 6 feet, tie it around your waist, and attach your dog to the other end. This way, you can still keep an eye on her, you get to spend time with your dog, and you can do whatever you need to do.
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posted September 02, 2003 08:52 AM
Well, she is in the crate when I'm not home or if I'm busy and can't be in the room with her... the only time she is allowed to walk around the house is when I'm watching her.... but, she is so fast, I'll be watching her and she'll squat down in 1 second and start peeing like its nothing... I try to grab her and get her to go outside, but by then its too late.
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posted September 02, 2003 02:04 PM
Doogie: I just wanted to let you know I understand exactaly how you feel. I have a 7 month old toy poodle. It took awhile to potty train her. She still has accidents sometimes but for the most part she runs outside and does her business. You are doing everything right. Just make sure you are watching her at all times. I know it seems impossible, believe me I have been there. I thought Angel would never get the hang of it. Thank God she did. I know it sucks to have to take her outside ever 30 minutes, but believe me it's worth it. The big thing that helped Angel with potty training was getting a doggie door. I dont know if you have one, if not you should get one. This will allow the puppy to go outside and potty. Also make sure you are cleaning the spots were the accidents happen. That is something I still need to get better at. If they smell there messes then they will go there again. Just remember that they grow out of this and you will have a wonderful companion. There for awhile I was wondering if I made a mistake by getting a dog, but after she became potty trained and recently became housetrained, I dont know what I would do without her. It takes time and believe me your not alone in this. Crate training is the best thing you can do for your pup. I hope I helped you in some way. If you have any other questions just ask. Im not perfect but I'm here to give and get advice.
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Angel
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posted September 02, 2003 02:30 PM
Thought I would add a few more things. Make sure that you make a routine. Take the pup out right after eating, playing, sleeping, and any activities. When going outside say something like "Go outside" and when your out there say something like "Go potty". When the pup does go potty say good girl/boy and give a treat. This will show the pup that its a good thing to go outside. Make sure if you catch the pup in the act inside the house say NO and pick her up and take her outside and say "Go potty OUTSIDE". Never scold for going in the house. Just be serious when saying no. You dont want the pup to think she will get in trouble if she goes potty in front of you. They dont understand that your mad that they went in the house. Then you might have a problem of the pup going in areas where you cant see her.
Hope things get better for you soon!
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posted September 03, 2003 08:53 AM
Boy Angel you sure are doing well so far! Great job and keep it up!
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posted September 08, 2003 11:18 AM
I'm in the process of potty training my husky pup. I also crate him when I'm gone - but I've found that by sectioning him off in smaller parts of the house - that he won't go potty inside. It's almost like a slightly larger crate to him. I use baby gates to make little areas in the house - then I've been gradually making his areas a little bigger. It's working for the most part (you've got to expect some accidents - they're only babies).
I know how you feel. My pit mix was potty trained in less than a day - my husky seems to be taking FOREVER! Just don't beat yourself up about it - all dogs are different - just like people. They all learn at a different pace.
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posted September 09, 2003 06:42 PM
thanx Angel. I'll have to try that with my new little girl
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posted September 14, 2003 04:38 PM
Angel said it pretty good, wipe the mess up and throw papertowel and all where you want the dog to go.. the important thing is to watch the dog like a hawk, if she starts to squat screem no and clap your hands then take her out and stay out till she goes sometime this takes a while but eventually the dog leans the she cant go back in until she does her dirty work, of coarse praise is given after she does ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif) the best thing over all is to have patience with that baby girl ![[Smile]](smile.gif)
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doogie
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posted September 15, 2003 04:08 AM
OK... but right now I let me puppy in... and every 45 mins or so, I say "gotta go potty?"... and I bring her out to her spot and she goes... every single time.... should I be waiting until I see her squat in the house before I bring her outside? Or will she get the idea by me bringing her out every 45 mins?
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posted September 15, 2003 08:22 AM
The way you're doing it is great, but if in between outside trips she starts to have an accident, you need to stop her and take her out.
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doogie
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posted September 23, 2003 05:02 AM
I thought Golden Retrievers were supposed to be so smart... how come its taking so long? I hear other people say their dog was potty trained in 1 month... she is almost 6 months old!
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posted September 24, 2003 11:54 AM
Just because they were trained in a month doesn't mean they were trained by 6 months. She's not old enough to have complete control over her bladder yet. It could also be your training techniques or inconsistency.
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posted September 25, 2003 03:12 AM
I'm just trying to read and ask as many questions as I can... I bring her outside every 45 mins or so... but sometimes she just goes in the house after 20 mins... I just don't know what to do... I'm going to keep on doing what I'm doing and I just hope she gets it after awhile.
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Dawn
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posted September 25, 2003 09:26 AM
You might want to take her to the vet and see if she has a bladder infection.
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doogie
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posted September 25, 2003 12:05 PM
I already did that... at first, when she was peeing all over the house - someone said I should have her checked for that... but it came back negative.
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posted November 24, 2003 10:52 PM
I need some advice about my 5 month old pup. she's a begeal,husky,rott mix and i have had her since she was 6 weeks old. she knows what out is every time i say out she runs to the door we go out and she does her buisness, NOW why can't she go to the door herself and tell me she has to go out? she is be no means a stupid dog , she knows how to lay and roll over, turn around,give paw, speak. so if she can learn those tricks then why can't she ask to go out? i just bought a bell and hung it on the door knob, i say out and take her paw and hit the bell, then i open the door, am i doing this correctly? and does anyone know how long it usually takes for them to comprehend the bell with going outside? please give me some advice. anyone can e mail me at tradw541@aol.com
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posted November 25, 2003 12:56 AM
Keep doing what you're doing - but have patience. This is a complicated thing for her to learn at such a young age. Don't get upset with her if she doesn't pick it up. One day she'll catch on.
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Dawn
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posted November 25, 2003 08:32 AM
How old is she?
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heather
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posted November 25, 2003 06:19 PM
bell just turned 5 months old . she was living outside from the time she was born, and one day i was looking at ads on the internet and came across her. we got her when she was 6 weeks of age so she was taken away from her mom and a young age. today she rang her bell twice not on her own. i pointed to the bell and said ring it ( i have to say ring it ,instead of ring the bell, since her name is bell, i thought that might confuse her.) and she took her nose and fliped the bell, she only did it twice, hopefully soon she'll just walk over to the bell and ring it on her own to let me know she has to go out !!!!
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Dawn
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posted November 25, 2003 07:43 PM
If I were you, I'd just be happy that she's house broken considering that she lived outside.
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posted November 25, 2003 08:04 PM
that's the thing she stll is'nt housebroken she's gone twice today in the apartment but there's some days where she'll go 4 or 5 times in one day. she isn't telling me she has to go out at all. i have to sometimes just guess, like every hour i'll say out and she'll run to the door , but she won't go to the door on her own when she does have to go. every time i take her out she goes , but it's getting her to tell me she has to go out.
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