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Doc
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posted December 01, 2003 02:43 PM      Profile for Doc         
I have a young puppy (about 10 weeks) so I dont expect to much from her in the way of bladder control... however she seems to have the wrong idea as far as house training goes, so far everytime I have taken her outside when she needs to go she dosent, she just wanders around the yard and waits for me to give up and take her back inside again, as soon as we get back inside she goes off to a carpeted spot and goes. Everytime without fail she has behaved this way and I am not sure what to try next. I have tried using paper and taking her to the bathroom to go on the tiles but she always goes back to the carpet (not the same place just a random place on the carpet) she only seems to be happy to go on the carpet, kinda anoying really, I would appriciate some advice with this problem because I dont want to keep reenforcing this behaviour and as she is still young so I dont realy want to tell her of for going either and I dont want to leave her outside all day because that will only make her feel isolated from the family and shes still young and I dont want her to get sick (only had her shots about a week ago). Any advice will be apriceated
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Dawn
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posted December 01, 2003 03:58 PM      Profile for Dawn         
Well you're going in the wrong direction with paper training. That will only enforce that it's alright to go inside. I would suggest that you crate train her.
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Doc
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posted December 02, 2003 11:13 PM      Profile for Doc         
I did some quick resarch into crate training and it sounds like it would help, wish I had known about it for my other dog [Frown] may have made house trainig easier... Just a few questions.

What should I use for a crate for her?
Is it better to buy one or can I just build her one out of a box or something, is it better for it to last her entire life, so she always uses the same one, if so how big should it be so as she will be able to fit when she is full grown and yet still be small enough that she wont go in the crate? Is it better to be portable ie double as a carrying container for taking her to the vet etc? Is it better to be see through (ie cage like) or not (ie box like)?

Ok different problem... (probably should start a new thread but I'm lazy)

I wasnt realy expecting a puppy to suddenly turn up at the house, but my little brother saw her in a pet shop and brought her home with him, now its up to me to keep her under control [Frown] so we wernt realy prepared for her, she probably got left alone more than she should during the day in the begining, and I dont realy know what happined, but she is has become very noisy (ie whining and howling) I now have more time to spend with her and I am trying to correct this behaviour as well and was just wondering if I am on the wrong track because it she dosent seem to be getting better, She stays quiet all night that hasnt been a problem, except for the first few nights but after a lot of convinsing the rest of the family ignored her (actualy I spent the first two nights camped out infront of her door to stop my little brother and my sister from constantly sneeking in to make her feel better when ever she whimpered a little bit) now she is very well behaved and we dont hear a peep from her all night its only during the day time, anyway kinda got of track there... what I have been doing is I leash her up and start to walk away from her, to the end of her leash range as soon as she realises I am going away she usualy starts to whimper so I stand facing her and if she whines or howles etc I walk backwards away from her till she stops then I stand still for a short while and come back to her if she stays quiet, by doing this she has stoped howling and whining while she can see me (took me many times before she figured it out) but as soon as I walk out of view she goes crazy whining and howling etc, I have tried to keep leashed up near the other dog but that also dosent help, fortunatly the other dog is well behaved and dosent join in just tries to protect her I think (they are seperated but can see each other, I dont trust the older dog with the puppy just yet as she hasnt fully accepted her and occasionly there is some growling if they are allowed in the same room so I prefer to supervise all there visits for now) I have tried waiting around the corner till she is quiet then steping back into her view if she is quiet for a bit but that dosent seem to be working, if anything she is getting worse, ok this is a loooong post so I will leave it at that (probably should have started a new post with a different title...)

BTW she is a mixed bread a dalmation crossed with a blue healer (Im guessing on the blue healer I dont realy know but by the look of her...)

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posted December 02, 2003 11:57 PM      Profile for fullhouse9873         
I would look into buying a crate. They are pretty inexpensive (depending on the kind you buy). You can buy a large crate - one that will fit her when she's older. From her breeds - you'd probably want to get a large sized crate. The crate should be large enough for her to lay down, sit and stand comfortably. While she is still young you want to block some of the crate off - so that it's not too big. If the crate is too big - she will go potty in there.

With the barking - just try not to go to her when she is barking or whining. Tell her NO in a firm voice - when she stops tell her she's a good girl and give her lots of praise. This probably is a puppy thing that she'll grow out of - you just have to work with here a little.

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Doc
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posted December 04, 2003 12:07 AM      Profile for Doc         
Just wanted to give you and update, and ask another question about crate training...

Ive been spending the last three days with the pup doing some intensive toilet training (trying to transfer her odd will not go unless on carpet to the grass) the breakthrough came yesterday [Big Grin] she went on the grass and I was somewhat over enthusiastic with the praise, so I redoubled my effort and she seems to have figured it out she only had one accident yesterday and no mistakes today once she even went outside and then came to me to show me what she had done (is this normal behaviour?) then while she had my attention she went again on the grass and imediatly came over and looked up and waited for me to tell her she was doing it right, I think she realy likes my overly enthusiastic prase whenever she gets it right and I see her. Anyway my question is this, now that she is doing so well with her toilet training should I still consider crate training her? Is it usefull to crate train her for any other reason or is it mainly just for toilet training, if there isnt any other real benifit from crate training her I think I will leave it cause she is responding so well to my current aproach ok thats it.

Thanks for the advice and the prompt responses [Cool] , if I have any other problems/questions I know where to find answers [Smile]

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posted December 04, 2003 09:46 AM      Profile for NicoleLJ         
I would still crate train her. It gives her a den to relax in. My dogs, once trained, have teh doors off their crates. They will take bones in there and the cats know to leave her allone. Also if she is being under foot to much I will just say crate and off she will go. She will stay in there until I call her out agian. Even with the door off. She loves her crate.

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posted December 04, 2003 04:23 PM      Profile for Dawn         
Yes, still crate train. If you ever have to confine your dog because of travel, illness, or whatever, he won't completely freak out.
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fullhouse9873
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posted December 05, 2003 01:14 AM      Profile for fullhouse9873         
Crates are also a great place to keep your dog when she's alone. This keeps her from getting into - or chewing on something she shouldn't.
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