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kat31
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posted December 20, 2003 08:55 AM
i wrote a few weeks ago about our new pup biting all the time. he is a 13wk old springer and although he doesnt bite me very often now he wont leave my 3 year old alone. i know that she provokes him sometimes but today for no reason at all he just walked up behind her and really went for her hand, he drew blood and you can see all his teeth marks on her. i beginning to wonder if he is just naturally aggressive and if he will ever stop doing it. im now thinking about getting him a muzzle and whenever he bites putting it on him for 10minutes then removing it. has anyone any better ideas. i think he thinks she is one of his siblings and i have tried to let her feed him but i have to restrain him while she puts it in the dish otherwise he just jumps up at her and i think he might really hurt her. i would be grateful for any advice.
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lou3
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posted December 20, 2003 11:45 AM
I think you are slightly mad keeping him around this long with a toddler about. I would have got rid of him a long time ago. A playful pup is one thing but an aggressive one is totally different. I suggest you re-home him and find a more suitable dog to be around your toddler. If it were my pup and had drawn blood from one of my kids it would be out the door so fast it wouldnt know what was going on.
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posted December 20, 2003 01:04 PM
I agree that this must have been really building up. That is not a naturally aggressive breed of dog in the least. You need to either rehome him or get some professional help.
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kat31
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posted December 21, 2003 04:43 AM
i should have explained that we had just got home from town and he was really exited at the time i dont think he realises he is hurting her he thinks he is playing ive probably used the wrong word when i said he was aggressive do you still think i should rehome him?
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lou3
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posted December 21, 2003 10:39 AM
If it was just you in the house then no, but your daughter's safety has to be your highest priority. There are many dogs out there who will be suitable family dogs, you have just been unlucky in finding one that isnt. Springers arent usually recommended for toddlers because they are so excitable and need soooooo much exercise and training, i would suggest a clumber or cavalier if you desparately want a spaniel. Border terriers, norwich terriers and englis hbull terriers are great with kids too, as are some of the larger breeds like newfoundlands. Gun dogs such as english setters and labradors are usually good with kids too, but avoid pointers and weimeraners.
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Dawn
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posted December 21, 2003 01:10 PM
I would suggest getting him in some serious training. My aunt had a small puppy that they found on the middle of the interstate. My little cousin (she was about 4 or 5 when this was going on) was sometimes gone for a week or so at a time. When she would return, the dog would get very jealous. They got a speciality trainer and kept a muzzle on the dog at all times, now they have no problems and don't use the muzzle.
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posted December 22, 2003 02:33 PM
Most behavior is correctable with the right resources. Please consult your vet or local kennel club. The can put you in touch with an animal behavioral specialist.
Keeping in mind that you puppy is still young, how does you daughter react to him? When he is around does she scream and run? To many puppies, this is playing and it will encourage this behavior. It is very difficult to raise a toddler and a puppy. Both need a lot of time. Depending on your commitment to this puppy and your time available, you may be able to break this bad habit. If you chose not to rehome your dog, consider keeping him on a leash at all times. Even in the house. Then you are never more than 6 feet away to give a firm correction and keeps him out of trouble. It may calm your child knowing that your puppy and jump and bite her.
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posted December 22, 2003 10:55 PM
I can offer you a suggestion of what worked for my dog. We learned this in dog obedience classes. Keep a spray bottle of a water and vinegar solution handy. Every time the dog bites say don't bite and spray her a little in the mouth if you can. After awhile she will get the picture. Give it a "shot" and it will work.
Lynda J. Pensacola
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posted December 28, 2003 08:12 PM
I have two kids - and it was very hard te4aching my first dog that he was lower on the totem pole than the kids. He would want to play with my son like it was his littermate. After a lot of training - we finally got things figured out - and everyone's happy. He never got aggressive towards my son - just a lot of play nipping and jumping. I would say if there's any doubt in your mind about this dog - find him a different home. No matter what you have to keep your child's safety in mind. Also - make sure to never leave your child unsupervised with the dog - even if it's just for a minute. Even now - when I'm home with the kids and dogs - if I make a bathroom break - either the kids or dogs (or sometimes both) come in the bathroom with me. There are too many things that can happen in the blink of an eye!
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kat31
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posted December 29, 2003 09:18 AM
thanks for all the advice ive been keeping him on the lead most of the time and he seems to have calmed down a lot
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posted December 29, 2003 12:38 PM
Vinegar Spray: I received this suggestion, too. It was when we first brought Freckles home and prior to any obedience training. I went on the cattle dog web site and got a lot of good advice there, too. Herding-type dogs are very "mouthie" and even if not biting they want to express affection by opening their mouths on your hand or arm. Just be careful not to make it too strong and avoid getting in their eyes. Freckles still has a struggle not showing affection with her mouth, but she does know "wrong" and she responds, but you can tell it is a real struggle.
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posted January 09, 2004 10:04 AM
I recently got my first puppy, and looking for training solutions, came across this site. its amazing, and so far im having good results, this might help.http://www.thepetprofessor.com/secPetInfo/petInfo_Detail.asp?clevel=5&referenceID=388&TitleID=388&breed=dog
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posted January 26, 2004 12:19 AM
Freckles
My Aussie shepherd likes to jump and nip too ! ![[Mad]](mad.gif) especially when I took him out, or when he is excited. It just like what you said very "mouthie", so should I used the Vinegar Spray, spay on his mouth whenever he jump and nip.
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posted January 27, 2004 12:14 AM
My 2months old shitszu does the same. He particularly loves biting on my fingers and they sometimes really hurt! Whenever I'm seated on the floor with him, he loves jumping up on my face with the intention of play biting my nose maybe. I know he's just a puppy and they probably go through this stage but will they grpw out of it? Lets say I do spray him the vinegar solution, do I just flush his eyes once it does accidentally get there? I'm a new owner so pls bare with my questions. Thanks!
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posted February 03, 2004 03:30 PM
Your pup is normal, but I would have thought twice about getting one with any child under 5, you have certainly given yourself a lot of work, it is like having two children now.
Your pup is doing what he did in his litter, that is how they learn rank and dominance, but unfortunately he does'nt realize we hurt, we have no fur, you need to get him out of the habit ASAP. never leave your young child alone with ANY dog. When he goes to nip, make a loud yell, enough to frighten him, say no, very very firmly, squirt the water, (mine just used to drink it) if it helps. but you must stop him NOW.
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posted February 03, 2004 03:36 PM
Also, get yourself a good book on dogs, I have one by Eric Allan call Every Puppy, perfect pet or perfect pest. Your child is too small to do for this pup, it looks upon her as a litter mate!!!!
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