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Topic: Devil pups are out of control
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Kai&kanickysmom
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posted April 18, 2004 04:41 PM
Any suggestions would be fitting right now. I adopted two pups from the same litter and have had them for about 1 month now. They are now 12 weeks old nad its like a scene out of turner and hooch. They ate my recliner, my couch, three rugs the toilet seat, countless rolls of toilet paper, they get on the bed to pee and on my leather couch to **** and nothing is working. I have a huge yard and they get the run of it but during the day they are confined to a fairly large pen outdoors complete with doghouses and loads of shade and toys but they yowl all day while I am at work and the neighbors call me AT WORK!! I tried crate training but all they do is **** in it when I put them inside and make a mess out of the whole thing. I cant take them anywhere because they **** all over my van. I think they are doing it out of spite because I am not there all day. Is it something wrong with me or them?? ![[Flaming Mad]](graemlins/flamingmad.gif)
Posts: 2 | From: Big Bear Lake | Registered: Apr 2004
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ellierat
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posted April 18, 2004 05:42 PM
Sounds like you have 2 very very naughty pups.
Wow, I feel for you. They are probably both a bit scatterbrained at the moment, and one is teaching the other, and vice versa in everything they do.
First off: separate them, make it so they can see each other to cut out some of the howling, but keep them apart.
In your house: confine them to a small area only, don't let them in your bedroom and lounge, they have to earn the privilage.
sorry gotta go something has happened here. will write again.
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DaxAriel's toy
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posted April 18, 2004 06:20 PM
You don't say what kind of dogs these are. Two is quite a hand full but two from the same litter.
I agree that their living space in your house should be very confined (CRATES..CRATES...CRATES) not that I'm repeating myself.
It might be wise to see if you can find a home for one of them or invest in a puppy daycare that could teach them.
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charlene1
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posted April 19, 2004 02:33 AM
It is perfectly possible to bring up 2 pups from the same litter and still have a house left. It's a lot of hard work though.
Confine them to 1 room and try to get them used to being crated for short periods. Be sure to let them know what is right and wrong.
Unfortunately 2 pups will always teach each other bad habits and make your life 10 times harder.
If you could give more details regarding what you are doing to teach them etc we could help more.
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Kai&kanickysmom
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posted April 24, 2004 11:18 AM
I bought a crate when they were younger, but they outgrew it already and I don't have very much money. Where I live there is no doggy day care(trust me I looked) They are german shepard/chow/sharpie mixes. Seperating them would really help??
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ellierat
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posted April 24, 2004 03:54 PM
It will in the sense of training, cause you can concentrate on one at a time, plus the other won't distract the other. If you can't separate all the time, just let one in at a time, as it is inside you have the most problems. Or failing that don't let them in at all, wait till they are a little older, have a bit more sense and bladder control. Say, at about 4-5 months old.
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posted April 28, 2004 11:37 AM
Get two crates. Keep the dogs separate, in separate rooms, in separate crates. Start with training 'sit.' Training will be key to getting these dogs calmed down. Consider them 'grounded' right now and start working with them. You are the leader, they are fighting take the leader position away from you with all they've got. TAKE CONTROL. You eat first, You go out the door first, You call the shots on everything that goes on. Otherwise, they will continue to run your life.
If you can, take separate obedience classes with each of them starting at 4-5 months, but for now, get the upper hand and start training, with lots of praise for everything they do right and firm but gentle correction for what they do wrong. Crates are important. Get them used in the paper for $25.00 each to save money. They will give you a place to put them when you want to eat dinner without them disturbing you, and to use for 'time outs' when they are extremely out of control. Do not use crates for punishment.
As they play, they will decide who is the dominant between the two, but for them both, YOU are the leader. Make sure they know that in no uncertain terms. They will challenge you again and again - simply put them in their place every time.
You need to keep interacting with them, just be sure they know who is boss. That is the key to getting them to be relaxed, happy puppies, which will help them grow into relaxed, happy adult dogs.
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[ April 28, 2004, 11:55 AM: Message edited by: Ken Nielsen ]
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posted April 28, 2004 03:14 PM
If it were me i would rehome one of them. bringing up two dogs from the same litter is not recommended at all. One pup is easier to train and wont develop all the issues associated with pups raised together from the same litter - which are too many for me to list right now.
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lab_lady
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posted April 30, 2004 04:57 PM
We had two lab pups together from the smae litter and we never put them in crates or any thing like that . They were confined to the kitchin because it was vinal flooring and one end of the room was covered in newspaper so they could do their buisness, and the other was stocked full of toys, we also found that cardboard boxes (without staples and sticky tape)and they were encouraged to chew them up and they were praised when they did, but make sure they have tones of interesting stuff cos they will get bored and start to chew. but you do need to get them partially trained s that they go on paper becuse, if they dont do that then you are fighting a loosing battle, pluss they have to be properly trained from theword go, as soon as they have fully settled in you should start on the trainign but make it fun!! this will take a long time, and it really isnt the most ideal situation you being away for long periods a day, the messing in the van issue is prbably because they are frightened about what is going on you need to brake them in slowly. but good luck.
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