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Author Topic: which puppy food is best?help! meandoden Junior Member Member # 514 Rate Member posted January 08, 2004 02:40 PM                Ok, this is my first puppy on my own, i adopted him, and i havent even brought him home yet, as he's still at the vet, getting neutered. I want to do everything right, its like being a new parent, so i've reserched training, and house breaking, but after trying to find a resonable sourse of information, with no luck, i turned to this forum. I want to feed my puppy whats best. He's a choclate brown labrador retriever. if that helps. any suggestions? -------------------- i just had my first child, he's 8 pounds, with a thick coat of choclate hair, and the prettiest hazel eyes ever. Posts: 8 | From: louisiana | Registered: Jan 2004 Dawn Moderator Member # 14 Member Rated: posted January 08, 2004 07:48 PM                My personal choice would be Nutro Natural Choice puppy food. Or in your case, you would want to get the large breed puppy food. Posts: 428 | Registered: Nov 2002 carriecrowe Member Member # 472 Member Rated: posted January 08, 2004 09:44 PM                we use pedigree healthy puppy, it did wonders for our puppy that was SEVERELY underweight i mean she weighted less than 7# at 2 mos of age. and she is a rottie. Posts: 118 | From: Batesville,Ar | Registered: Dec 2003 meandoden Junior Member Member # 514 Rate Member posted January 08, 2004 09:50 PM                I've been doing some looking, and does anyone know if there is a distinguishable difference in human grade and feed grade,is one really better?oh, and thanks for the suggesstions, they are much appreciated! -------------------- i just had my first child, he's 8 pounds, with a thick coat of choclate hair, and the prettiest hazel eyes ever. Posts: 8 | From: louisiana | Registered: Jan 2004 carriecrowe Member Member # 472 Member Rated: posted January 08, 2004 10:00 PM                im not sure.. one of them might hold a higher content of "filling foods" than the other.. meaning the dogs can eat and eat and eat and never get truely full and want to constantly chew on everything because it is always hungry... i dont know for sure, so dont quote me. Posts: 118 | From: Batesville,Ar | Registered: Dec 2003 301pitbullpimp Member Member # 515 Rate Member posted January 09, 2004 08:43 AM                eukonuba large breed -------------------- yes suh Posts: 48 | From: maryland | Registered: Jan 2004 bearsmom Member Member # 405 Rate Member posted January 09, 2004 09:07 AM                Our dogs love Iams. They're all extremely healthy and happy on it. Posts: 90 | From: Oregon | Registered: Dec 2003 Dawn Moderator Member # 14 Member Rated: posted January 09, 2004 04:43 PM                The cheap dog foods (no matter if they're really cheap or higher end cheap) contain a lot of fillers and horse meat and by-products. Posts: 428 | Registered: Nov 2002 meandoden Junior Member Member # 514 Rate Member posted January 10, 2004 10:21 AM                ok, just an update. i went to petsmat last night, and after looking over several brands,i chose Nutro Natural, both the people there and a vet i talked to said it was a good choice, so im going to go with that(and dawn, lol). second choice was one of the iams brands.but anyways, thanks for all the help, and suggestions, they are appriciated. -------------------- i just had my first child, he's 8 pounds, with a thick coat of choclate hair, and the prettiest hazel eyes ever. Posts: 8 | From: louisiana | Registered: Jan 2004 fullhouse9873 Member Member # 222 Rate Member posted January 10, 2004 10:54 AM                I've heard only good things about Nutro. We're actually switching our dogs over to it now. Posts: 247 | From: Jefferson, WI | Registered: Sep 2003 JKKsEuro DobermanBreeder Junior Member Member # 451 Rate Member posted January 10, 2004 07:14 PM                   Do not feed ANY commercial dog food they all have trace amounts of euthanized animals in them and that my dear causes cancer.only feed a natural dog food.Natural 26 is good,Innovia,another one called Candie or Candise something like that. I feed mine Diamond look at their coats and you will see why. http://ourworld.cs.com/jkksdobermans/myhomepage/dog.html from precious pets sight Why is Cancer Killing Our Pets? All Natural &Holistic Pet Products Where natural, holistic healing begins... ... from the inside OUT! Why is Cancer Killing Our Pets? Courtesy of 'New Living' Newspaper March 2001 VACCINES Over the past decade or so, many veterinarians have become increasingly convinced that a number of vaccines are doing more harm than good for our animal companions. Some remain necessary, even mandated by law, such as rabies. But not all the annual boosters that have been traditionally given now appear to be necessary and they may be leading to several diseases. Among the conditions associated with vaccines are skin allergies, bladder infections and cancer. The U. S. veterinary community is currently reviewing most vaccines protocols. When it is time to revaccinate your animal, your veterinarian should consider the pet's age, his/her lifestyle (indoor or outdoor), his/her general state of health, the prevalence of the disease in question in the geographic area where you live, whether your animal is pregnant, whether or not you board her/him and other factors. Each case is individual and should be considered as such. One of the more no-holds-barred statements about vaccines is Dr. Richard Pitcairn's warning: "Giving a vaccine to an animal with cancer is like pouring gasoline on a fire." He also advises not vaccinating pets who have breast tumors or any other growths or tumors. His overall recommendations regarding vaccines are these: Try to get your veterinarian to give single or simple vaccines rather than complex vaccines. Young animals can tolerate a reduced vaccination schedule, but vaccinating is not advised before sixteen weeks of age. Annual boosters should be avoided even though they have been popular. Pitcairn goes so far as to say avoid "any further vaccinations after the initial series as they are not necessary." He adds that the latest official medical opinion is that annual boosters are neither required nor effective, although not all veterinarians will agree with or even know this fact. THE PET FOOD INDUSTRY Perhaps the most shocking and informative book about the pet food industry is Ann Martin's "Food Pet's Die For", published in 1997. As Dr. Michael W. Fox, vice president of the Humane Society of the United States, says, "Ann Martin is to the pet food industry what Rachel Caron was to the petrochemical-pesticide industry." Martin spent seven years investigating the commercial pet food industry and what she uncovered isn't pretty. There are several reasons you really do not want to feed your dog or cat commercial foods. Perhaps the most compelling moral reason is that there are rendered, euthanized pets in much of this food. These pets have been mixed with other materials, including some condemned for human consumption: "rotten meat from supermarket shelves, restaurant grease..'4-D' (dead, diseased, dying and disabled) animals and roadkill." The Minister of Agriculture of Quebec told Martin that dead animals are often cooked with viscera, bones, fat and fur. In both the United States and Quebec, this rendering of pets is not illegal. Martin points to an article originally published in the San Francisco Chronicle in which an employee and ex-employee of a rendering plant admitted that their company rendered approximately 250,000 to 500,000 pounds of animals, s***** and more, including "somewhere between 10,000 and 30,000 pounds of dogs and cats a day." That's enough to make most of us sick, isn't it? Martin, a Canadian writer who lives with several animal companions, went a bit further in her investigations and discovered that some pets are euthanized with sodium pentobarbital and then rendered. This poison does not break down and goes into commercial pet food and feed for cows, pigs and horses. For the detailed report by the FDA's Center for Veterinary Medicine on popular commercial pet foods containing pentobarbital, click here. When you read the report, please know that AD (animal digest) is animal waste (to be polite)! Two thirds of the pet food manufactured in the United States contains added preservatives, according to the Animal Protection Institute. There are also coloring agents, emulsifiers, lubricants, flavoring agents, pH control agents, synergists and solvents. "Of the more than 8,600 recognized food additives today, no toxicity information is available for 46% of them," the institute says. EQ (ethoxyquin) is the most common antioxidant preservative in pet foods. It has been found in some dogs' livers and tissues months after the animal stopped ingesting it. Ethoxyquin is manufactured by Monsanto Chemical, the largest manufacturer of bioengineered foods. EQ is listed as a hazardous chemical by the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) and is considered a pesticide by the USDA. It is used in most US dog food, but is banned in Europe. The FDA's Center for Veterinary Medicine requested that pet food manufacturers voluntarily reduce the maximum level for ethoxyquin by half to 75 parts per million. PreciousPets.org is pleased to announce that none of the products offered contain any of the above ingredients! [ January 10, 2004, 07:26 PM: Message edited by: JKKsEuro DobermanBreeder ] -------------------- Marcia Jasinski JKKsdobermans@cs.com http://ourworld.cs.com/jkksdobermans/myhomepage/dog.html owned by Angus(Latvia) Kleo(Russia), Ginger and BellaDonna (Plus her 9 new pups) Posts: 17 | From: Buffalo New York | Registered: Dec 2003 ayl715 Member Member # 417 Member Rated: posted January 12, 2004 01:05 AM                I feed my Asussie 'Innova' and home cook food. Posts: 34 | Registered: Dec 2003 mojo Member Member # 289 Rate Member posted January 12, 2004 11:35 AM                my vet once told me that once in a while home cooked food isnt bad, but he also said to not put any seasonings in it. i feed both my dogs eukanuba large breed [ January 12, 2004, 11:36 AM: Message edited by: mojo ] Posts: 52 | From: queens | Registered: Oct 2003 Freckles Member Member # 281 Member Rated: posted January 12, 2004 06:52 PM                Muenster All Natural has the approval of most of the organic/natural ghurus in Texas. It has been great for Freckles...One thing I think Dawn pointed out some time back, that if you start on a particular brand and decide to change, it is a good idea to do it gradually so not to throw their systems off. Posts: 122 | From: Southlake, TX | Registered: Oct 2003 Husky_Eyes Junior Member Member # 593 Rate Member posted January 31, 2004 07:46 AM                Hey there, If you ask me, I would go with the Purina Puppy Chow Large Breed Formula. That's what I feed my husky-pupps and they are very healthy and muscular. Keep in mind, the brand of food that your dog dislikes the most, thats the healthiest for them. If they like their food a lot, it means that it has a lot of sugar and other cheap ingredients that your dog shouldn't consume. Good Luck! -------------------- Regards, Peyman Posts: 9 | From: North Carolina | Registered: Jan 2004 kdtod Junior Member Member # 577 Rate Member posted February 02, 2004 11:09 AM                please please please everyone.......do some research about Iams and Eukanuba. If you care at all about the well being and humanitarian care of animals in testing environments. http://www.uncaged.co.uk/iams.htm Posts: 16 | From: vancouver | Registered: Jan 2004 lil mika Junior Member Member # 530 Rate Member posted February 04, 2004 02:40 PM                eukanuba large breed for puppies (only if he is a pup). your vet might say to feed adult food just because your dog is neutered and around 6mos. but definitely eukanuba!!! -------------------- -Pat Posts: 9 | From: New Jersey | Registered: Jan 2004 Amberlii Member Member # 609 Member Rated: posted February 05, 2004 05:25 AM                   I feed Chicken Soup for the Adult Lovers Soul. Most supermarket brands are mainly corn whereas this brand is meat! Also the protein levels were very good for our Great Dane. I've heard a lot of goods things about Nutro also! Bow Wow Beds [ February 05, 2004, 05:26 AM: Message edited by: Amberlii ] Posts: 91 | From: KY | Registered: Feb 2004 BarnDog Junior Member Member # 664 posted February 14, 2004 09:08 PM                   Eukanuba (sp..?) large breed formula is great. Good luck with the pup! BarnDog -------------------- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Catch and Vinny 3 yr old black lab, 1 yr old Jack Russell - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Posts: 17 | From: ID | Registered: Feb 2004 dog freak Member Member # 768 Rate Member posted March 15, 2004 05:35 AM                   Parsanoly, i think Purina is best,but thats just me! [ March 16, 2004, 01:53 PM: Message edited by: dog freak ] -------------------- "Fire Hydrant This Way ->"pet reststop sign. Posts: 36 | From: Nashville | Registered: Mar 2004 gunn Junior Member Member # 688 Rate Member posted March 15, 2004 08:50 AM                I have always used science diet large breed puppy food for my Akitas and my Great Dane. Posts: 11 | From: Friendswood | Registered: Feb 2004 charlene1 Junior Member Member # 754 posted March 16, 2004 04:26 AM                I am a nutritionalist and have seen dogs feed on all kinds and more often than not fed incorrectly. For the price eukanuba is an awful food and I have seen a lot of dogs lose weight and condition on it. Nutro is the same price and is a far superior dog food but you do have to be careful to feed the correct amount as some dogs put weight on very easily with it. Have to disagree with the fact that all cheap dog foods are rubbish. Some actually are quite good and I have met a lot of dogs who are fed on chappie (one of the cheapest foods out there) who are in very good condition. More a food for the smaller breeds though I would say. Burgess supadog and wafcol are also good quality foods which most dogs seem to do well on. The mainthing to remember is every dog is an individual and what suits one won't always suit another. Also bne careful to feed the correct amount and make sure any diet changes are gradual and that your dog is happy with them. Posts: 25 | From: u.k | Registered: Mar 2004

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