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LoriAnn
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posted January 17, 2004 07:04 AM      Profile for LoriAnn         
I just have to share this story, I'm more than a little peeved about. A couple came into the vet I work at w/a little 3lb. Maltese puppy to be spayed. They seemed a little overly uneasy, the woman was about in tears. They explained this is their 3rd puppy, the 1st 2 died after being put under at another vet. I asked the receptionist after they were gone about this. She said they called her after the 2nd one died to ask about spaying a puppy, of course they blamed the vet for the 1st two. She asked them where they got the puppies. They gave her a name of a lady who runs a really bad puppy mill outside of town. (I was there a couple of years ago, she has cages literally stacked on top of each other in a barn) She told them they probably were bred from parents that had some sort of genetic defect & she urged them to get another one from a breeder that made health guarutees. Instead they went to the same breeder, bought another maltese from different parents & brought her in to be spayed. It lived, but I shudder to think what other health problems this poor little thing is going to show up with in the future.

I can see the appeal of paying $200 as opposed to $800 for a puppy, but all of the vet bills & suffering ISN'T worth it! If a breeder is breeding several breeds, offers no health guarantees & isn't involved with showing, kennel clubs or anything of that nature, or if they offer no OFA certification for hips, eyes, heart, etc. they probably aren't responsible breeders. Check out the parents VERY closely. If they are very timid or aggresive they could very well pass on those traits to thier offsping. Or it could mean they aren't out of thier cage very often.

It seems the law are ineffective or they aren't being inforced. I've read in the paper twice about this woman being fined & she's still in business. The only way this will ever stop is if people stop patronizing them.

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posted February 05, 2004 05:30 AM      Profile for Corne         
Hi,

I have recently seen the same thing when we were looking to buy a yorkie from a "breeder". This woman had 38 adult yorkie breeding dogs - in very small kennels & they were all very dirty & neglected. She also breeds with other dogs & has 180 dogs in total. How does one go about reporting this so that someone could look into the plight of these poor animals?

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posted February 05, 2004 02:34 PM      Profile for doodles         
that is disgusting [Flaming Mad]
she wants reporting [Mad]
people like that
what in gods name prosseses peeps to do that to those poor animals [Flaming Mad]
if peeps have seen this then these peeps should report her [Mad]
i would with out a doubt i hate people like that [Flaming Mad]
and they should be stopped before any more poor animals go on suffering
has any one done any thing about it yet [Mad]

report it to your local authorities r.s.p.c.a
or any type of animal shelter in your area who looks into cruelty
dont know where you live so cant say but mine is r.s.p.c.a

[ February 05, 2004, 02:38 PM: Message edited by: doodles ]

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LoriAnn
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posted February 05, 2004 03:27 PM      Profile for LoriAnn         
The problem is they get a fine & a slap on the hand & they are back in business.
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posted February 07, 2004 02:43 PM      Profile for piper022003         
does anyone know where i can find this typ of dog
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posted February 07, 2004 03:54 PM      Profile for Ashley02:   Author's Homepage         
First of all people shouldn't sell dogs or any animals in cages! That mad me MAD! [Mad]
ANd second of all, you should see the puppy's parents and background info. And examine the puppy's parents, to see if she has a cold, and other little effects. Because the genes from the puppy's parents would be passed down to the offspring. Like if the parents were deaf then puppy would be deaf. Or atleast one them would.
Follow me? Thats why my mom doesn't us to buy puppy mill puppies. [Smile]
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Spend time with your pet. Don't ignore them. And don't abuse them.


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posted February 09, 2004 04:00 PM      Profile for bearsmom         
LoriAnn, I know what you mean about the fine and the slap on the wrist. It drives me crazy! Here, in Oregon, they take that stuff really seriously and the fines and jail time escalate for repeat offenders. I don't know about your area.

It'd be worth it to report the people, so that way you can get what they're doing on the record. If it happens again, or doesn't change, the police will confiscate the animals and it gets really serious pretty fast.

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301pitbullpimp
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posted February 10, 2004 08:30 AM      Profile for 301pitbullpimp         
to play devils advocate: i know animal cruelty is serious and all, but dont you think those same jail cells should be reserved for the child killers, and sexual deviants?? why take up space for a child killer/sexual deviant (who are also repeat offenders, being released because of a lack of space) for someone who is abusing a puppy?

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posted February 10, 2004 12:48 PM      Profile for Freckles         
The tendencies towards cruelty directed at animals is no less curelty and should not be left unpunished. It is the act itself that is being punished.

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posted February 10, 2004 03:46 PM      Profile for Dawn         
People who abuse animals are 75%-95% (depending on exact study done) to go on to abuse or kill people.
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301pitbullpimp
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posted February 10, 2004 08:40 PM      Profile for 301pitbullpimp         
so the person who kidnaps a child, brutaly rapes he/she and dumps there nude body in a dicth should get the same punishment as someone who feeds a puppy glass? come on get real, where is the importance in society????

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posted February 11, 2004 05:45 PM      Profile for ayl715         
so the person who kidnaps a child, brutaly rapes he/she and dumps there nude body in a dicth should get the same punishment as someone who feeds a puppy glass? .......
This is a very bad and extreme example. Anyway both should be punish according to their crime.
Any from of cruelty to any creatures on earth is not acceptable.
Afterall, it is their (animals) land too !!

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posted February 11, 2004 09:32 PM      Profile for Dawn         
And they wouldn't get the same punishment either. Those are two very different crimes with two very different sets of legal consequences.
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301pitbullpimp
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posted February 12, 2004 12:25 PM      Profile for 301pitbullpimp         
so unless we are all vegans, we should all be punished for eating a hamburger, sushi, or some popeyes chicken? is this not animal cruelty also?

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LoriAnn
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posted February 12, 2004 04:21 PM      Profile for LoriAnn         
Maybe not hamburger...veal, yes. It is one thing to butcher an animal meant for human consumption quickly, but leaving an animal in a cage all it's life; puppy, kitten, calf, or any animal is wrong. Breeding animals with defects is wrong.

I haven't been to this lady's place in over a year, since I'd read she'd been fined twice I was suprised to hear she is still in business. The authoritys HAVE to be well aware of her.

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301pitbullpimp
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posted February 12, 2004 08:44 PM      Profile for 301pitbullpimp         
define defect? see the problem is certain individuals (cough AKC, cough!) set a certain standard for domesticated animals to you a defect could be too much color, to me a defect could be blindness, which may not be due to breeding but merely genetics/mother nature

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posted February 14, 2004 09:01 PM      Profile for BarnDog   Author's Homepage         
My aunt got a Pom from a puppy mill (not exactly knowing before). The dog was fine, but hated going into the basement of her home.
A few months later, the woman was arrested, and five hundred dogs were rescued from her home.
She was giving the males steriods (sp?) and overbreeding. The puppies were in small filthy kennels.
I am pleased she was sut down, but not all non ethical "breeders" will be.
I am always cautious with puppy mills- and pet stores where they sell them.
Poor little dears. I pity them.

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posted February 17, 2004 02:23 PM      Profile for Ashley02:   Author's Homepage         
The puppies look sad, in the little cages. It makes me soo mad!! [Flaming Mad] I wonder if they take them out side! and were? i mean GRRR!! [Mad] i want to slap them! It smells, and poop is all over the place! [Mad] [Frown]
*mad sigh* i think we should do sumthing.

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posted February 17, 2004 02:25 PM      Profile for Ashley02:   Author's Homepage         
Hey did they your aunt, or they lady she got the puppy from? That is a petty, to have way 2 many pets at the house!!! My mom would kill me if i did that. thats for sure!! [Eek!]

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