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Lucian
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posted February 09, 2004 05:15 AM
I have a 10 wk old APBT pup. He is a very smart dog. He already is pretty much housebroken. ( Most accidents are because I didnt get to him in time)He knows sit/ fetch pretty well.
He is a dominant dog. He is dog agrresive but we are working on socalizing him with other dogs. He loves people though. I have noticed that he doesnt listen to me as well as he does my wife or even my kids. I usually have to be more stern in my voice commands for him to respond. I am wondering if this is because we are both males & he is just testing my rank.
I was wondering if there was some things I could do to help him view me as the "alpha" in our family. For example turning him on his back etc. It really isnt a big problem now, but I dont want it to be in the future.
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posted February 10, 2004 08:24 AM
it sounds like he is def. trying to show his alpha status, he may have already gained alpha status over your wife and kids, question-when they tell him to do something he doesnt like does he still do it or is he stubborn about it, also i know it is water under the bridge, but proper research is KEY before you buy a new dog, esp. a pitbull or a dominant breed. and yes it needs to be checked ASAP, or you will a deadly weapon on your hands.
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posted February 10, 2004 01:48 PM
Pits are dog aggressive most of the time, socialization is SO important!!! Mine will get along with little dogs, and my Dad's dogs (big ones) cause he knew them when he was raised but he will attack ANY other dog. It is annoying but a trait of the breed. He loves CATS, KITTENS, BABIES and PEOPLE!!! (and horses! just dont other MALE dogs or aggressive dogs) he is okay with non aggressive dogs.
All I can say is socilization...but I think pits are one dog dogs.
Also, mine listens to me more then my husband. LOUD yelling only works.
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lou3
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posted February 10, 2004 04:08 PM
a few tips for dealing with dominant dogs
Dont feed them until AFTER you have eaten - and makes sure he knows you have eaten before him.
Every time you walk in a room and he is sitting somewhere move him and sit there yourself
NEVER EVER let them on the sofa/bed thats YOUR territory - dogs not allowed.
take their food away from them half way through eating - dont give it back until they have performed the "sit" command or similar - if they growl or grumble dont give it back at all til next meal time.
Frequently sit on their bed yourself - their is no part of the house in which you do not take precedence.
The dog doesnt have toys - YOU have toys that you occasionally let him play with.
Oh and get him neutered - this helps with dominance problems to a certain extent.
(and is the responsible thing for any dog owner to do)
Hope this helps
Lou
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posted February 16, 2004 01:28 PM
My dog sleeps with me and my husband, in our bed under the covers....and we would not have it any other way. He is one of the nicest dogs I know...
Mind you, I have never met a "mean" pit bull!
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posted February 16, 2004 01:47 PM
Yeh!! I love having my dogs up on the bed with me, I lay on their bellies and they put their paws round my neck and cuddle me, but my husband would have a fit if he saw them up there, so I have to be sneaky and do it when he's away and give the covers a 'vacumme' literally, so there is no evidence. One of these days I'm gonna get caught. ![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
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posted February 16, 2004 08:26 PM
pitbull on furniture ( esp bed), dangerous game.....
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posted February 17, 2004 12:06 PM
Funny how I always hear people saying "I never met a mean pitbull" I have. I almost had my face ripped of by one. It belonged to my friends, sister's live-in boyfriend. They lived in the basement of my friend's house. I saw the dog a lot, it never had a problem with me until one day when we were all standing around and I happened to look down at the dog sitting there and it jumped in my face. I refused to go back to her house after that. Later, the dog attacked the grandmother (who was there every single day) when she got out of the car. It mangled her leg. (They put it down at that point) And that's not the first time I have heard of a dangerous pitbull. There is one that comes to our off leash dog park from time to time. It attacked a young dog there recently, the owner is an idiot. He won't do anything about the dog, just a matter of time b/4 it attacks a person.
So yes, Pitbulls are a dangerous breed. They need to be raised with a loving but strong hand.
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posted February 18, 2004 02:25 PM
Well I disagree...
"pitbulls are a dangerous breed" is because people have this horrible imagine drilled into their heads because of SOME pitbulls and owners.
Thats like being predjudice....I have met SUPER friendly, fun, cute, nice, playful and excellent temperment pitbulls.
I have seen mean Rottis, collies, border collies, shepards, mastifs, jack russles...and I dont say that the WHOLE breed is messed up.
Have your opinions, but dont be narrow minded, you miss out on allot of GOOD things in life. Be a leader not a follower!
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posted February 18, 2004 03:33 PM
Dog breeds are established with certain qualities. This is how breeds come about, by picking and choosing qualities and breeding to carry on these qualities. There are the hunting dogs which have been bred to show attributes such as, stealth, quietness, and a STRONG desire to hunt small game. It's a part of their genetics. Dogs such as the Pitbull, Rotweiller and Akita (for example) were established to be fighting dogs and guard dogs. It is a genetic thing. Of course ALL dogs can be dangerous - duh. They are animals. But what I am saying is that *certain breeds* were established for certain reasons. Pitbulls were not established to be lap dogs. Of course there are extremes to every situation (the very gentle, the very aggressive) But as a whole, Pitbulls are known for their aggressive tendancies BECAUSE the breed was established that way.
People can aruge this fact till they are blue in the face, but the fact of the matter is that some breeds are more dangerous than others because they have aggressive tendancies which are inbred. (not all breeds have these tendancies) These types of dogs require a strong handler and a well informed handler. In the hands of the wrong person, they can be killers.
I"m sure we have all heard the horrible stories of Rotweillers, and Pitbulls that attack. Does anybody wonder why there aren't the same number of attacks of... say...Lab's ,or Dalmations. Of which there are millions.
I'm not one of those fanatics who think that all dangerous breeds should be removed from the planet, or that they should immediately be muzzled from birth. I'm saying that as an informed dog owner, it's important to know the make-up of your dog so that your training regimen can reflect that.
BTW: It is the close minded folks that say "Oh, Pitbulls are not a dangerous breed" just the same as the ones that say "Oh, Thoroughbred's are not a hotblooded/nervous breed".
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posted February 18, 2004 08:10 PM
well said miss bandit, well said
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posted February 19, 2004 04:15 AM
FYI PITBULLS WERE NOT BRED TO BE FIGHTING DOGS
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posted February 19, 2004 06:55 AM
where the heck did ya get that info from? - they were 100% bred to be fighting dogs. Thats where their name comes from - being bred for use in "pit" fights.
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posted February 19, 2004 10:20 AM
ACTUALLY, IF YOU DID YOUR RESEARCH LIKE I DID BEFORE I GOT MY 3 PITBULLS, YOU WOULD LEARN THAT THE PIT BULL WAS ORIGINALLY BRED FOR BULL-BAITING, THEN THAT WAS OUTLAWED IN ENGLAND, THATS WHEN THEY WERE USED FOR FIGHTING ADN USED AS "CATCH DOGS"
P.S. AND I BELIVE THAT ROTT&PIT WILL AGREE ABOUT THIS WITH ME, ANY RESPECTABLT PITBULL OWNER HAS DONE THE REASEARCH AND KNOWS THEIR BACKGROUND
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posted February 19, 2004 12:34 PM
what on earth do you think bull-baiting is if not fighting? oh and please dont type all in capitals it makes it quite a pain to read.
[ February 19, 2004, 12:35 PM: Message edited by: lou3 ]
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posted February 19, 2004 01:13 PM
Nope, not all TB's are hotblooded and nervous!
I believe 100% in the way you RAISE your animals/kids what have you?
I guess ****** owners create monsters?? Right?
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posted February 19, 2004 01:15 PM
ANY dog can be dangerous if mistreated and trained to be mean......and that goes for the other way around too!
People like to come down on pits cause they believe everything they hear!!
Dont bash anything until you try it. ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
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posted February 19, 2004 06:33 PM
Amy, I realize that b/c you have a pitbull you are taking this as a personal attack. It's not. I happen to actually like the pitbull, they are impressive dogs. I am NOT coming down on the breed. Just being realistic. Are you telling me that you don't believe that Pitbulls have agressive tendancies as a whole? Then you are living in the dark. Didn't you read my post? It was NOT breed bashing.
It's not surprising that the Pitbull owners are the ones that get so upset when people bring this issue up. But like I said, I like the Pitbull, but I also respect that breed a lot more than some others b/c of their genetic make-up.
And I didn't say that ALL TB's are flighty, but the BREED is recognized to have those tendancies.
I'm not trying to dis anyone's dog - trying to make that clear here.
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posted February 19, 2004 07:28 PM
pitbulls are not dogs for the novice owner, you may get a one that is sweet as can be, but then you get a true blue GAME pitbull, and you have a loaded weapon, and true anyone cam nake any dog a terror, its just having a dog with a history of fighting (bull-baiting, dog fights, ex)and has descendants who maybe still fight (lets please not act as though dog fighting doesnt still exsist), bottom line, pitbulls are rough (and there not the roughest dog out there), yes they get a bad rep some of the time (as will all dogs with an agressive nature), but the times that they get the bad rep, they truly deserve it, PITBULLS NEED RESPONSIBLE MATURE HANDLERS, I recently had a pitbull confiscated by the local aspca not because he was agressive, but because some fool years ago did something silly and had the whole breed banned in the area, but when i think o fthe young girl a few weeks ago who got mauled by a pit, I didnt even feel right owning one, just my 2 cents
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posted February 19, 2004 08:10 PM
Yes I do get touchy when this subject comes up cause I am sick of thw way people stare at me when I jog with my dog, parents that grab their kids and run away from us....If my dog was a monster, he would not be in public.
I understand that they are a tough, strong breed, but I completely believe that it is the owners and lifestyles that make the difference. I know that lots of drug dealers and criminals get pits cause they look "tough and mean" and are used as security and so on...but they really are a gentle, loyal and loving dog when brought up that way.
My guy LOVES babies (human) and kittens, cats, my sister 2 TINY chihuahua's...when people see me and my dog walking with 2 1 pound chihuahua's they change their frame of thought.
Im sorry if I got defensive, and I understand the contraversy but I wish people would give them a chance.....
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posted February 19, 2004 09:42 PM
Oh I totally understand what you are saying! I know that a lot of people are really afraid of pitbulls and give owners *that look* when they see one out. You would be surprised at how many people mistake my Boxer for a Pitbull, so I get a lot of those looks too!
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posted February 20, 2004 04:22 AM
So what has happened to Lucian who first posted the question?
Did he open up a tin of worms and ***** off, or are you still there?
While you lot are arguing amongst yourselves!!!!
I think you have answered his question, or have you?
I did not type in a swear word it was sk_nk off, but obviously I wasn't allowed that.
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posted February 20, 2004 02:34 PM
My dog is actaully a Staffordshire Bull Terrier and they say....
"They have a great affection for people, gental, affectionate, trustworthy, and loyal. They are an "expecially good dog for kids", a wonderful family pet, happy, outgoing and stable. "
so...?
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posted February 22, 2004 03:57 AM
staffies are great! they have the sweetest temperaments. They are often dog aggressive but make wonderful family dogs. they're as different from pit bulls as labradors from border collies personality wise.
Lou
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