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hittman
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posted July 08, 2004 03:33 PM
hello im am looking for a loyal and strong gaurd dog.i have an 9 year old dalmation,she is very submissive.i have a meduime sized yard.the reason i want a gaurd dog is because my house has been broken in 2 twice this past winter and my dalmation didnt stop em.the dalmation is spayed.i was thinking maybe a rottweiler or a pit bull but i heard bad things about pit bulls and other dogs.what dog do u recamend
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posted July 08, 2004 05:25 PM
Buy a security system - cheaper more reliable and better for your application. If you get a guard dog it should be a 3+ year professionally trained animal (big $$$$) and it doesn't really matter whether is a shepard rotti or pitbull it's the training that will make the difference.
However, this will not be a dog to cuddle up on with on the couch.
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posted July 08, 2004 06:09 PM
PS... a serious intruder would think nothing of poisioning or killing your dog. It's just another reason for a monitored and maintained system will save you money & time. A good system will cost you less than $30/mth. Then you're free to get a cuddle bunny dog for the fun and loyality aspect.
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posted July 08, 2004 09:36 PM
I would get a Doberman Pinscher, as they are SUPERB at guard work. That is what they were bred to do. If anyone tries to break in, I'm sure the Doberman would probably bite. If you want something that will bark and growl but not bite, I'd get a Collie.
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posted July 08, 2004 10:15 PM
i dont want it just to gaurd my house a want a pet and i like rottweilers and itss but would a pit do ok with my dog that is curently living here
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posted July 08, 2004 10:53 PM
I'll tell you honestly, people think twice before comming inside when confronted with my black lab Ellie, even a truck driver came here one day with a big rig, but was hesitant to get out, Ellie was there with the hackles up giving a good honest bark. I think its the black dog white teeth thing, put him off. I did not train her to do this, what has happened I'm sure is that she is so much a part of the family, well loved that she just protects us. Even the electricity reader has the place noted as a dangerous dog situation, she must have been out the front one day when he came and I didn't notice, (down in paddock) and bailed him up. LOL.
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posted July 08, 2004 10:56 PM
Also, I have 3 labs, all bark when anyone drives up, we are on 10 acres in the country, NO ONE, will go in the back gate, or house, I'm protected from all sides, also I know by their barking if it is a stranger or just play, it has a different pitch, tone.
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posted July 09, 2004 08:46 AM
You might wanna be careful with pitbulls because they are the breed with the sharpest teeth and if it ever got in a fight with your Dalmatian something bad might happen. Rottweilers can be good dogs, but I've heard bad reports about them.
Just make sure that you socialize them at an early age and it'll be ok.
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posted July 09, 2004 11:59 AM
I would go with a rottweiler or mastiff given that you already have a dog. They are both natural guard dogs, and big enough to make any potential burglar think twice. I find that most people are just put off by big dogs that bark.
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posted July 09, 2004 12:58 PM
My personal soap box: Not to **** anyone off but I really need to get this out in the open about GUARD DOGS. Most dog owners (95%) are not able to train a true GUARD DOG. This is how the rotti’s, and other protective dogs get ruined and become dangerous. It is an added benefit if you have a rotti that it deters small time crooks and other persons, it’s the same with any larger dog that shows a few teeth. However, they aren’t bullet proof, poison proof or neglect proof. If a crook, killer or other bad guy really wants to– your dog will not stop him – slow him down – call the cops or an ambulance. If you want a dog that will bite anyone that enters your property – there are dogs that will do it. They usually end up biting the neighbor, small children, attacking other dogs and are generally a nuisance and the reason so many breeds have bad reputations.
The company I work for is in the security business – it’s so cheap & easy to get full property coverage that it would be insane to buy a dog just for protection.
Guard dog training is not for amateurs as it is really easy to turn a lovable family member into one that can’t be trusted around strangers, etc.
I beg anyone who wants a dog to get it for the right reasons – companionship, friendship, fun and count your blessings that there are added benefits like barking, protection, cuddles & kisses.
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posted July 10, 2004 12:51 PM
Hey guys i have been away for a long time. I agree that your best bet for a "guard dog" is to get a security system that alerts the cops and other authorities. around here and where i grew up at, if your dog bites someone (yes even an intruder) they can sue the living **** out of you and will eventually own you. all the intruder would have to say is something like "i was just passing out these flyers and this dog came out of nowhere and bit me causing me several problems and hospital bills" and if you bring up the point of having a sign of "beware of dog" on your gate, snippers easily remove those and their is no proof it existed. I have a friend that bred and raised rotties for a long time and kids would come by all the time and cut her "beware of dog" signs off her fence. I have a lab/heeler mix, and a rottie, and a rottie/chow/heeler mix. all three are my "guard dogs" IN THE SENSE they let me know someone is there... they arent trained to be "killers" or "guards" they are trained to obey and love. They are all raised with my 2 and 3 yr old daughters. My dog angel (rottie/chow/heeler) is one of the loyalist dogs i have ever owned and i wouldnt trade her for NOTHIN. she means everything to me. she has made me alert that someone was around my home when i was by myself at night, she is my companion. she lets me know if something is lurking around in the woods behind my house. IM not denying the fact she is a dog and she does have teeth and yes she can bite, but if i tell her down, she obeys my command and lays. in a year i have owned her, i have only found one person she would honestly bite and that person no longer comes around my home. i have found several others that can walk up to her ONLY if me or my husband is talking to them. she will not leave my side if she thinks i am in trouble or if their is a threat around. she isnt dangerous with my kids, she's one dog i would honestly trust around my kids at any given point in time.
Do yourself a favor and just get a security system. I love rotties after i got PROPERLY introduced to them. With all breeds of dogs it all depends on how they are handled and trained. if they are trained to be a "killer" you'll never be able to turn your back on them. If they are trained to be obedient and loveing you have to be aware, but they are more loyal.
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posted July 11, 2004 07:02 AM
Pit Bulls maybe the most awesome dogs in the world.Rottweilers are awesome too.The things you here on the news about Rotts & Pits attacking people.It's not the dog,It's the owner of the dog.Most of the time the reason why the dog attacked someone is due to poor breeding,the owner not training the dog properly,the owner not socializing the dog properly,& them chaining the dog up outside & never letting off the chain. (Chaining a dog isn't very nice,it tends to make them very territorial.The Pulley systems that you can hook your dog up so they can walk in a HUGE square in your yard are GREAT because the dog can walk around alot.)Pits aren't great guad dogs,because they are so social with humans.If you're going to get a dog for a guard dog go with a dog (Rotti or Dobe Pinchser) that has been trained for a few years inthat field of work.I don't recommend getting a dog,because if someone wants in your house they will just kill your dog if it confronts them.Security systems that are really really cheap.A fully trained guard dog will cost thousands of dollars.They can't be cuddled or loved on in any way like you do with your Dal.
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posted July 11, 2004 03:55 PM
when i sayd guard dog i didnt mean i was gonna atempt to train it to bit people and attack.i have wanted a dog reasontly because my moms dog is very loyal to her and is nice to me but follows her around all the time and now that i think im responsible enouph i wont to get myself a dog but i just me meant by guard a dog with a protective instinct.and now i think i want a german shepherd after reading a book i rented from the library on em. didnt mean to make anyone mad
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posted July 11, 2004 04:39 PM
Well that's another story. German Shepards are protective loyal and very training. They also bark lots - and shed a ton.
Rottis & pitts are less vocal and more powerful. Both shed and require lots of socialization and training.
Pick which ever breed you personally like the best Or go to your local shelter. THey usually have lots of bigger dogs with protective personalities.
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posted July 11, 2004 05:21 PM
do u think i could own a pit bull who i would get as a pup be aggresive to my 9 year old female damlation who is spayed and is submissive and good with other dogs. i would sperate them during the day when no one was home and feed them in different rooms.
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posted July 11, 2004 05:29 PM
If you get the pit as a baby - he would grow up knowing your dalmation and should be ok. Especially if she is passive. HOWEVER, your nine year old - like mine would have to put up with puppy play - teasing, etc.
I would not bring either a rotti or pit into my house with another dog after they are two years old. Just too much room for competition and aggression.
Males tend to be more aggressive even when neutered which is something to consider.
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