Why are you breeding?

[1shell]

I am totally aware of that too. Also the amount of room and care and feed for horses is greater. I totally get that. I am just saying there are way more dogs and cats in numbers for sure. Besids, most people in other countries don't eat dogs and cats although there are those that do, where as horses are eaten by people in many countries and by all kinds of other animals, including cats and dogs (AKA processed foods).
Therefor, there SHOULD be less waste when it comes to horse population at least.
Not trying to start an argument and get the thread shut down, just making an observation, that's all.

[Lizaveta]

I'm not ever planning on breeding, but I don't think anyone has the right to lecture anyone else on the rights and wrongs of this. People can give their opinion and thoughts, but to pressure their own values on people (whether this be by the people who are against breeding period or by the people who think that only shown purebreds should be bred) and insist that their way is 100% the only way doesn't sit with me at all.

I hope to eventually own a purebred Pharaoh Hound. I've been obsessed with the breed for about a year now. I've decided that this is the breed I'm set on getting and if the anti-breeding PETA supporters don't like it, they can keep it to themselves and stop killing off animals behind the scenes. People should clean up their own backyard before looking over the fence.

[rutylr]

Originally Posted by Lizaveta

I'm not ever planning on breeding, but I don't think anyone has the right to lecture anyone else on the rights and wrongs of this. People can give their opinion and thoughts, but to pressure their own values on people (whether this be by the people who are against breeding period or by the people who think that only shown purebreds should be bred) and insist that their way is 100% the only way doesn't sit with me at all.

I hope to eventually own a purebred Pharaoh Hound. I've been obsessed with the breed for about a year now. I've decided that this is the breed I'm set on getting and if the anti-breeding PETA supporters don't like it, they can keep it to themselves and stop killing off animals behind the scenes. People should clean up their own backyard before looking over the fence.

Breeding correctly no one here has a problem with.
Show/health test /study your breed/then breed after all that.Just putting to dogs together to make puppies does not constitute breeding correctly.

[Lizaveta]

Originally Posted by rutylr

Breeding correctly no one here has a problem with.
Show/health test /study your breed/then breed after all that.Just putting to dogs together to make puppies does not constitute breeding correctly.

Everyone has their own ethics and values on breeding and what is considered 'responsible'. I have mine and other people have theirs. My point is that everyone's ethics of what 'responsible' breeding is are different and it isn't right to shove our views down other people's throats, whatever they may be.

[SevenSins]

Originally Posted by Lizaveta

Everyone has their own ethics and values on breeding and what is considered 'responsible'. I have mine and other people have theirs. My point is that everyone's ethics of what 'responsible' breeding is are different and it isn't right to shove our views down other people's throats, whatever they may be.

So everyone should just "live and let live," shut up and not say a word when someone breeds their un health tested, untitled dog that may or may not even be purebred to their neighbor's dog down the street, because they might have a different "opinion" as to what is responsible and ethical? It isn't right that some of us have to scrape the dogs they produce off the roadsides or keep pulling them from the shelters either, but they seem to have no problem shoving that down our throats.

[Lizaveta]

Originally Posted by SevenSins

So everyone should just "live and let live," shut up and not say a word when someone breeds their un health tested, untitled dog that may or may not even be purebred to their neighbor's dog down the street, because they might have a different "opinion" as to what is responsible and ethical? It isn't right that some of us have to scrape the dogs they produce off the roadsides or keep pulling them from the shelters either, but they seem to have no problem shoving that down our throats.

Originally Posted by Lizaveeta

People can give their opinion and thoughts

We'll just have to agree to disagree. I never listed my own opinions on what I consider to be responsible breeding here. Breeding dogs which aren't health tested isn't my idea of a responsible breeder, but I won't keep going deeper into my own definition of what I think a responsible breeder is because 1) I've already had conversations about this here before and 2) I'm not here to start another fight on this already worn-out topic, and as we can see even mentioning that your views may not match others' causes some less than friendly replies.

As I said, we'll have to agree to disagree.

[Parkedout]

Originally Posted by 1shell

WOW! This is a long thread for sure. They get like this on the horse forum too, but usually get locked WAY before this.
I think the horse forum people need to come look at this one once in a while. They get all up in arms about the over population of horses when dogs have 2 litters a year and can have 6+ puppies at a time! The horse people need to chill. We have nothing on the dog and cat populations.
Anyway, I am all for breeding responsibly on both sides, horses and dogs. I get bashed a lot because of it too.
(I adopt/rescue both horses and dogs and am not a breeder of either )

A ridiculous comparison, to be sure.

Originally Posted by SevenSins

Only if you're relying on simple numbers. If you look only at the number of horses sitting in feedlots at the auction yards waiting for the kill buyers to come along and compare it to the number of cats and dogs in shelters, sure, it doesn't look nearly as bad as the dog or cat population. Now consider the fact that the vast majority of the population, unlike dogs and cats, can't own horses. The ratio of unwanted animals to potential owners is pretty darn similar.

Fully agree...

[mandymmr]

I wouldn't say breeding, I would say activly practicing humans! LMAO!

[GSD4Life]

Originally Posted by Parkedout

A ridiculous comparison, to be sure.



Fully agree...

Ditto. Us horse people aren't all that bad.

Sorry to OT.

[Parkedout]

Originally Posted by GSD4Life

Ditto. Us horse people aren't all that bad.

Sorry to OT.

We certainly ARE NOT.