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Old 10-22-2005, 05:28 PM
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cute rotti pups!!

I found some cute pics of rottis and rotti dobbi cross'. Just thought id share...
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Old 10-22-2005, 05:30 PM
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They are terribly cute!!
Oh PS- Dobbi is actually Dobi for short
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They are gorgeous!
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Oh and of course mine. Tess!! a rotti Dobi cross at 10 weeks.
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Cute pup!
but I wonder how she got that white on her chest. Rotti's and Dobies have the same black/tan markings.
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I might be wrong here but I think it is possible for Dobermans to occasionally have a white marking (and they can have a separate white gene) According to the standard a 'White patch on chest, not exceeding ½ square inch is permissible' so that could quite possibly be why she has a white marking. Also Dobermans come in different colours.
Here is something I found on the topic (yet don't know how accurate it is)
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COLORS OF THE DOBERMAN
The breed can trace its history back to the Dobermannpinshcerherverein stud book of 1890. In 1899 only one color was recognized, the black and rust. In 1901 two other colors were allowed, these additional colors were; the brown and rust, and blue and rust. With the fawn (Isabella) being recognized in 1969, this brought the total to four allowed colors for the Doberman in the USA.

The fawn (Isabella) Doberman is a known recessive gene (dilution) of the reds; while the blue Doberman is a known recessive gene (dilution) of the black. This is a simple autosomal (either sex) recessive gene. Both parents have to "carry" this gene in order to produce the dilution, or depending on which genotype, all four colors a "rainbow" litter.

The blue and fawn Doberman ARE NOT rare (meaning they should NOT demand a higher price than a red or black); as you can readily see the mode of inheritance for the blue and fawn is a VERY well known simple genetic fact. Many within the Doberman community do a considerable amount of research when planning a breeding and breed accordingly, often times this will eliminate producing blues and fawns.

Combining the four allowed colors (phenotype) with the 9 possible genotypes will result in 81 possible combinations of breedings. In order for the serious Doberman breeder to understand the probability of the puppy phenotype, a color chart has been devised and each of the four colors (including their varied genotype expressions) have been assigned a number from 1 - 9.

NOTE: Below is a SMALL example of what is included in the color chart. This is NOT a complete listing of the 9 assigned numbers. B is the "black" factor, dominant over red. b is the "red" factor, recessive to black. D is the dominant "non-dilution" factor. d is the recessive "dilution" factor. A number 1 BBDD (black phenotype) will produce ONLY black. A number 2 BBDd (black phenotype) will produce only black and blue puppies unless bread to a #1 BBDD black, a #3 BbDD black or a #7 bbDD red. A number 3 BbDD (black phenotype) will produce red and blacks except when bred to a #1 BBDD black, a #2 BBDd black, or a #5 BBdd (blue phenotype) in which case only blacks will be produced. A number 4 BbDd (black phenotype) can produce all four colors when bred to another #4, a #8 bbDd (red phenotype), a 9 bbdd (fawn phenotype), or a #6 Bbdd (blue phenotype).
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BTW very cute pup!
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Rottis can have white on their chests as well. It is a fault in the standard with the AKC, but I have seen some in obedience with the white on their chests
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I was thinking that but didn't know for sure lol.
I also notice in the third picture that puppy also has white mark so it's obviously normal.
And I'm not sure where Tess came from but there is always the chance of other breeds in the lineage so there are quite a few reasons why she could have the white marking.
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