Buttercup in jail still peeing everywhere, anywhere

[Ken Nielsen]

Poor Buttercup, She is one year old now and I think that for most dogs they have the peeing in the home under control. She is a more skittish personality. She has her water removed at 8 at night and is let out a lot and just before bedtime. But three times over the last two weeks, she has peed on our bed. I touch her nose to the pee almost immediately after she does the deed, and tell her no and she seems to know that she did wrong and seems to know why I then put her in her crate and only let her out for walks and feeding for a day or so.

The vet tested her and found no significant problem, we put her on antibiotics anyway. Now there are more expensive ($1,500.00) tests that can be done but I want to be sure that it isn't just still puppy stage and her general temperment that contributes to a little mistake now and then. It is a lot of work to wash all of the bedding. Usually she does this right after we went out for the last evening walk before bedtime. She comes in, jumps up on the bed and just pees.

We've discussed this here before a few months ago, but I was going to see if it would decrease. Should I wait to see still if she outgrows it, or should I bite the bullet and do a big expense which there is no guarantee they will find anything, and is not covered by insurance.

I feel so bad for her, I know it's not her fault,

Ken

She's the one on the right:

[bernicesmama]

I don't know ken, Bernice did that to me a couple times she stopped before she was a year old. is that the only time she is incontinent or are there other times she has problems?

[Deb's Tiny Dogs]

Ken - Cali does this same thing! However, if she sleeps in her crate, no accidents. I have just had to accept that she can't sleep in our bed, which is sad to me because this is her real cuddly time; when she's tired.

Moo says it's a dominance issue.

[jason43050]

Originally Posted by Ken Nielsen

I touch her nose to the pee almost immediately after she does the deed

i wouldn't rub her nose it it, that will make her just go find a hidding place to pee/poo. but i would use the crate though if she comes in from outside and goes and pee's on your bed try crating her after you let her in for awile. is she peeinmg outside just once? or does she do it a couple of times? dogs tend to pee a little here and pee little there. she may still smell her pee on the bedding a little and think that is wear she is allowed. even though you wash the bedding, some might have gotten on your bed itself,and she smells it. i not sure if that is why or not, just a thought. i not no professional here, i just got a 2 mth old puppy myself, and i got problems with potty training her now, but its my fault cause of the situation that i'm in. i've watched a puppy training video i got with my puppy from petland. that and i've read alot of threads in these forums are you praiseing her alot when she does go outside? if you catch her in the act of peeing on your bed give her a firm no! and take her outside to finish her deed. or put her in her cage for awile. not really sure when a puppy/dog should be house trained or not. might depend on the training it got. or the technique you used to train her. dogs are creatures of habbit i had a real skiddish dog once, everytime i went to pet her or i'd look at her the wrong way she'd sqat and pee! was so aggravating. my situation now, it's going to be a long time to get her house trained. she is by herself for 10.5 hrs, but i got no choice now. it was a bad decision that i got to live with. so she pee's/poo's on my bathroom floor till i get home, then i keep an eye on her while i'm home and take her out often. i mean she knows what she is doing while she is outside, but she won't let me know she needs to be let out, and she sqats/poos anywhere and i know i am telling her it is ok to go on the floor since i'm not home for that long. i don't have anyone that can come let her out or i would. its a bad situation that just got to deal with. sorry to put you throught this long paragragh about my pup i hope this helps. keep us informed

[comfort80]

nature's miracle makes something you can throw in with your laundry. i saw it at petco.

[Deb's Tiny Dogs]

You will likely never housebreak a 2 month old puppy by asking it to hold it for 10 hours. A tiny Chi that young needs to be let out every 30 minutes.

Not sure why you got a puppy if you're in a situation that doesn't allow for her to be taken out on a puppy's schedule. You're inching your way to the top of my pet peeve list.

Given your situation, you may be better to teach her to go on wee wee pads vs. all over the bathroom floor, etc. However, once you start the wee wee pads, it's best to continue on with them into adulthood. Some are successful getting their dog off wee wee pads and onto grass, but it can be hard and confusing to the dog.

[jason43050]

she won't go on the "wee wee" pad, she just chews that up. i know its mine and my wifes fault on getting the puppy. didn't think about it till it was done deal. so we got to make the best of a bad situation. we thought about trying to litter box train her, but not sure if that will work, probably better that she is doing now i would guess. should i just litter box train her and forget about outside?

[Deb's Tiny Dogs]

Try spraying the entire wee wee pad with a product called Bitter Apple or another I like better called Bitter End (indoor version). Then, when she chews it up, it will taste terrible to her. Keep doing this until she stops chewing it up. This is most likely just puppy behavior. If this doesn't work, try Tabasco sauce.

What about doggy daycare or hiring someone to come in to let her out several times a day?

This, truly, is how dogs wind up in shelters. I hope you're in for the long haul here.

[Ken Nielsen]

jason43050, I thank you for the many thoughts and also everyone else here. I still have an idea, after watching her carefully over the past months, that she is a skittish girl, not so bad that she will pee at a wrong look cast in her direction, but still skittish enough to 'let loose' when she feels it is comfortable. I think she can be trained out of it with a lot of patience on my part. I want her to be able to sleep on the bed as she does so well except for these 'mistakes.' I am trusting that crating her will be the answer, but I will let her out and try again in a day or so of her being kept isolated. She makes it all day, 4 hour stints at home, all the time without a problem in the day. She even, on one very rare occasion, has been home for 10 hours and had no problem.

For your dog, and please don't get me wrong, I can tell that you are a very caring person and want to be a good owner, I would definitely PAY to have a professional dog walker get on routine to come over at least once a day to walk your dog for an hour or so. Count this as the cost of ownership. I try to think of what it would be like for me to be restricted to not be able to pee and have an owner I didn't see until I had to go on the floor several times. I make every sacrifice to give my girls the best life I can, and I know that you most likely can find someone who is advertising a dog walking service in your area. Get a person who is in the business of doing this. They will be more dependable than just hiring a neighbor. Your dog will love you for it.

Ken

[Ken Nielsen]

"is that the only time she is incontinent or are there other times she has problems?"

Once she pooed on the kitchen floor one Saturday afternoon when I was at home. Just all of a sudden, she started going. I picked it up and put her in the crate. That was only once that that happened. For peeing, she can go for a month or more with no problem, and then, like this last two weeks, she is on a routine to have a 'mistake' in the evenings before bedtime and right on the bed. Glad I have two twin beds and a rubber protective mat on both of them now, so I can rip off the offended bedding and throw it in the tub, throw the dog in the crate and still get to bed on time.

Us dog owners have to be ready for anything,

: )