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Why Raw ?
From this sight: www.mountaindogfood.com
Why Raw Food? To answer this question we have to look at the current beliefs/myths/advertising and question their validity. Balanced Diet This phrase leads us to believe that a diet for dogs must trend towards a center or norm. This is true in itself; however that is not what the processed manufacturers really mean. Their version relates to the chemical make-up of their product. In their view a balanced diet is combination of base protein, heat separated fats, and mineralized vitamin compounds that try to duplicate the daily requirements for pets. Why would this be an effort? Because the products they start with do not represent the base diet for pets. The protein is typically, base animal protein from a separation process known as rendering, grain based, or both. All other basic vitamin and mineral compounds must be added to bring the base material into line with the daily intake requirement. Surplus to the dogs diet are the carbohydrates and non-digestible fiber from the grain. This material is not counted in the diet ratings because they do not represent parts of the basic daily requirements. They do contribute to the pets intake though, sometimes with negative results. Natural Diet Somehow natural foods and diets went from base products found in gardens and pastures, to packages being delivered from large mills. A Natural diet is a Raw Diet. If the products the processed manufacturers were producing was a natural diet, why would they need to supplement with calcium and other mineralized compounds? How many "Natural Diets" have a shelf life of a year? Natural diets do not have masses of preservatives to keep bacteria from forming on its surface. Why would I feed my pet, as a staple, something that bacteria would not eat? Diet Variability is not healthy... This was a marketing ploy to be sure. Nothing could be further from the truth. What is known, is that if you feed a monochromatic diet to a puppy in the early stages, its ability to digest or metabolize a variety of food as an adult is reduced. This usually shows itself as diarrhea condition which may not be as bad for the dog as it is for the owner. This lack variability is self serving, in that once the pet is "hooked", moving to a different food causes a reaction that the owner sees as a problem (maybe even a trip to the vet) then a move back the original diet. At the end of this is typically a pet with some sort of condition requiring ongoing medical help, due to and overabundance or missing part in the dietary make-up. A raw diet demands variability. Variability is not only good for the dog, it is good for the owner. The variability should include the vitamin sources as well as protein sources. Poultry as a base with meaty beef bones to chew on, and liberal addition of vegetables and some fruit provides a lot of room for variability. Grains are not a requirement but can be added on occasion. A little whole fish, or fish oil, is always good as well. Feed at different times of the day within a 4 hour window (example: between 6:00 and 10:00 PM) and vary the amount. Tend to under feed for 2 days then "top it up" on the 3rd day. This will keep the pet guessing as to when and where the next meal is so they finish it up all at once. Plus you have control over the consumption not the animal so the end result is a leaner healthier pet. Canine and Feline dentistry... This whole problem is directly built on the commercial dog food industry. The plaque that builds up, has it's origins in the carbohydrates in the food. When the saliva begins the digestive process, the carbohydrates breakdown into sugars, that the plaque causing bacteria feed on. As the bacteria reproduce the plaque production increases. If the food has no carbohydrate component, the pets are chewing on raw bones to break up the lowered amount of plaque, dentistry is not required. Even the commercial pet food industry recognizes the effect of raw bones when they try and sell a dog bone replacement as a dental aid. Don't feed your dogs bones... We bought into this for years. It took a lot of convincing to get us to believe that feeding a raw bone was Ok. Now we can't believe why we were so intimidated. Granted this saying does have some merit... DO NOT FEED COOKED BONES OF ANY SORT! This distinction is very important as raw bones have both the elasticity and dietary component. Cooked bones, through the heating process change chemically, making them brittle and leaches out or recombines most of the vitamin and protein components. These cooked bones have no nutritional value and can became lodged in the intestine. Raw bones are both nutritional and flexible, but most of all digestible releasing the calcium and other components both in the right quantity and the right time in the process. Dogs and cats have been domesticated and need a different diet than their wild relatives.... This is a 20th century load of poor science. If that were true the dentition and digestive systems would have adapted to 'grind up' and 'digest' the carbohydrate laden 'briquets' being produced. Your dogs and cats would have evolved teeth closer to humans or ungulates like goats, not the ripping and chewing teeth they possess. What your pets need is a diet that reflects their heredity not one based in the refuse of human consumption. My vet says______ ... While the tendency is for us to believe implicitly the advice from our vet, as with our own health we should always seek other opinions from the medical establishment. As with the human medical establishment, most effort is devoted to the treatment of disease not prevention, so a lack of understanding on their part lies in the training not the science. The truth is that most vets have little training in nutrition, with most of it based in animal production for the food industry. Very few have training in feeding pets over a longer life span. Any nutritional training they do get is typically based in testing done at the labs for commercial pet foods. This testing has life of about 3 to 12 months and uses dubious criteria to determine a successful outcome. The fact still remains that we need our vets. If we can get them past the crisis intervention thinking of their training, to look to the long term health management you will probably hear a shift in the tone and information delivered. Most will reconsider their thinking if approached in the correct manner, or at the very least give you (or your pets breeder) due consideration in the matter. Writer's Opinion As a dog breeder for nearly 20 years, we suffered the criticisms of all those who would make us (and our work) out to be this uninformed, indiscriminate, production of animals purely for profit, with little regard for the genetic or physical well being of our animals. While I would suppose this is beneficial to some of those in our society, it is a simple fact that without us many peoples lives would lack that companion animal. It is very interesting that those who seem to shout the loudest are those who profit from, feeding the animals, or treating the animals. We started our little adventure in production of raw frozen foods to augment the results seen in our kitchen counter production. Since then we have seen a dramatic improvement in our dogs; but also an increase in the level of objection to what we are saying and doing. We recently received an e-mail with a dubious address, unsigned and unclaimed, trotting out all the hyperbole and fear mongering typical of the commercial food sellers. The angry tone of the e-mail was disconcerting enough; but when they went on to blame problems in purebred dogs on the indiscriminate breeding practices and poor genetic considerations of the breeders it made me think about what was being said. It has occurred to me that maybe the breeders are not entirely to blame, in fact I take exception to that view. Maybe we have done genetic damage to our purebred dogs; but not from breeding practices, rather a hereditary build up of poor dietary practices has finally shown through in the health of the animals. What leads me to this conclusion is that the same maladies that affect the purebred animals are also present in the mixed breed populations where breeders have not influenced the genetic outcome. We will continue to feed the raw food in our dogs and encourage our puppy buyers to do the same. Given the results seen since 1997 we expect continued improvement and a long healthy life for our dogs.
Last edited by Dobified; 11-08-2005 at 05:34 AM. |
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Thanks for posting this Sandi!
It is great information!
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I have spoken with many people about the health related benefits of feeding a raw diet.
There is a man in Edmonton that rescue's greyhounds, he had got one that was in such bad health and was lame. The dog was a mess. He started her on a raw diet and within two weeks the dog was looking a feeling better. I know from my own experiences that it works wonders, just look at my two. This is a general statement: I must howevwer stress that RAW feeding is not for everyone and you need to be able to take the time and make the effort to do it correctly or you could run into trouble. Research and talking to people whom are already using this diet are the keys. |
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One thing about RAW is that, dogs did not evolve to eat kibble made of corn, by-product, peanut and rice hulls (not all food but the majority) canines have evolved to rip flesh, swallow large chunks, of meat with bone fragments and all! And as well as smaller amounts of grasses vegetables and fruits. NOT KIBBLE!!!!!
Now I feed my pups kibble (heheheheh) but have done some thinking and researching about RAW. And I would like to know more. Mountain Dog Food was right beside my work, but have moved, and I am not that sorry, cause have you ever smelled rotten meat???? (not all the time, they prob. just got a bad shipment of meat) |
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Great post, a good one for new owners too
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BONES
For millions of years, dogs have cleaned up the remains of other animal's bodies. Mostly bones. That ability remains. All modern dogs easily and joyfully tackle bones. A dog's whole system is designed for and in fact needs bones to function properly. Bones are living tissue composed of living cells. Because bones are living tissue, just like any other part of the body, they are a complex source of a wide variety of nutrients. Bones contain minerals which are embedded in protein. They also contain fat. If the bone is from chicken or pork, then that fat will be very high in the essential fatty acids. Along with the fat are fat soluble vitamins. The central parts of most bones contains marrow which is a highly nutritious mix of blood forming elements, including iron. Raw bones also provide natural antioxidant/anti-ageing factors including enzymes. "It is not hard to pick the dogs that eat bones. They look and act healthy. The acid test however, is to look in their mouth and smell their breath. I do this daily as part of a routine examination of all the dogs that enter my practice..." Bones are nature's storehouse of minerals for your dog. If meat is added to bone, then methionine and most of the B vitamins are supplied. Puppies and adult dogs fed bone rarely if ever suffer from indigestion or diarrhea. They produce smallish quantities of solid minimally offensive stools. It is highly probable that bones play a similar role to fiber, that is, a role of bulking out the food, thereby removing toxins and promoting general bowel health. Bone eating dogs are long lived healthy dogs. They seem to be particularly free of the degenerative diseases of old age. MEAT Many people assume that a dog's natural diet is a meat only diet. Unfortunately this is untrue as a meat only diet is highly unnatural and unbalanced. Meat should form only a part of the over-all diet, which should include bone, fruits and vegetables as well. For example, the muscle meat eaten by wild dogs forms a small part of the diet that consists of a wide variety of other foods, including bone. What nutrients are in meat? Meat supplies proteinOFFAL In the wild, dogs eat the stomach content and organ meat from the animals they prey upon. In fact, internal organs form a vital part of the wild dog's diet. Modern dogs have similar requirements. Dogs consuming these foods as part of a sensible diet have superior health to dogs that do not eat them. Although organ meats are valuable dog food, they are not required in huge amounts. They are a concentrated source of many essential nutrients and are particularly valuable during times of growth, reproduction and stress as a source of concentrated nutrients. LiverVEGETABLES Dogs have actually eaten vegetables the whole period of their evolution, and that's a long time! As such, vegetables, particularly green leafy vegetables should form part of the domestic dog's diet. Dogs need vegetables because they contain many important health promoting nutrients. The fiber your dog obtains from raw vegetables includes both soluble and insoluble fiber. Vegetables supply many other nutrients. Many of those nutrients are the ones that have been found to be in short supply in the modern dog's "civilized" diet. This includes difficult to obtain omega 3 essential fatty acids, most of a dog's vitamin needs, masses of enzymes and various anti-aging factors, including antioxidants and phytochemicals. Broccoli |
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FRUIT
Yes, dogs can and do eat fruit. Wild dogs - domestic dogs, they all do it! Remember dogs are omnivores. They can eat almost anything. Fruits are mostly water. After that, the major nutrient in fruit is soluble carbohydrate. That is simple sugars. Energy foods. Fruit contains lots of fiber. It also contains vitamins, enzymes and antioxidants. Because fruit is a whole food, it also contains minerals, small amounts of protein and small amounts of fat. Two nutrients present in most raw fruits, vitamin A as carotene and vitamin C, make fruit a valuable food for your dog. The enzymes present in raw fruit, also make it important as part of your dog's diet, particularly if your dog is past middle age and showing the beginnings of degenerative disease. Is it essential that dogs eat fruit? No. All of the nutrients present in fruit can be obtained from other sources. However, by adding fruit to the diet, we ensure a wide variety of foods. This gives the greatest chance of providing a balanced diet with plenty of longevity and immune system promoting nutrients. Any fruit can be fed to dogs, however tropical fruits are a particularly valuable food as they contain lots of antioxidants. Scientists have discovered that the enzymes and antioxidants present in fruit, many of which have not yet been identified, keep the skin and indeed the whole body free of degeneration and old age diseases. Whole AppleWHOLE EGG Eggs are absolutely brilliant nutrition for your dog. Eggs are a whole food, and often regarded as having the perfect protein. It is the one against which all other proteins are measured. Eggs contain a full compliment of minerals, including excellent levels of calcium (mostly in the yolk), all the vitamins except vitamin C and a range of high quality saturated and unsaturated fatty acids, the nutrient lecithin and the whole range of enzymes and other longevity factors always present in raw foods. The shell is included as a further source of calcium. Egg yolks are an essential food for a dog with skin problems. They contain sulphur containing amino acids, biotin, vitamin A, essential fatty acids and zinc. FLAX SEED Flaxseed has been used for more than 10,000 years. The oil of the seed is a rich source of Essential Fatty Acids. Essential Fats, or Essential Fatty Acids (EFAs) are essential nutrients that the body can't produce itself. The only way to obtain these nutrients is through diet. EFAs are polyunsaturated fats, which are considered "good" fats. EFAs contribute to the healthy functioning of cell membranes, and are also critical for the synthesis of eicosanoids, a family of hormone-like substances that help in cell maintenance on a minute-to-minute basis. Just like other essential vitamins and minerals, EFAs are necessary for good health. Flaxseed contains bioactive compounds called lignans, which have been proven to prevent cancer. Once consumed, lignans found in flaxseed are converted by bacterial action in the colon to mammalian lignans. They are then circulated through the intestinal tract and liver where their action is potentiated. In the body, mammalian lignans have estrogen-like and anti-estrogen effects. Scientists believe the effects of lignans on estrogen metabolism, in addition to their antioxidant properties, may explain why diets rich in lignans have a lower incidence of cancer. Evidence suggests that lignans may also be antioxidants, although the strength of their antioxidant activity is not yet clear. Other studies indicate flax lignans reduce cholesterol and prevent diabetes in animals. So far, scientists have isolated at least three flaxseed components with potential health benefits. The first is fiber, valuable for intestinal health. The benefits of the other two substances, alpha-linolenic acid (a type of omega-3 fatty acid) and lignans, suggests that these components may be helpful in prevention of heart disease and perhaps in treatment of chronic kidney disease. GARLIC Garlic is nature's antibiotic. There is no doubt that garlic does confer some health advantages. Garlic has been found to have effective antimicrobial properties, inhibiting the growth of both bacteria and fungi. Garlic helps stabilize blood pressure and gives a good solid boost to the immune system, keeping at bay infections of various sorts particularly upper respiratory tract infections. Much of it's success is due to various compounds of sulphur. Garlic is a health building and disease preventing herb. It is rich in potassium, zinc, vitamins A and C, and selenium. It also contains calcium, manganese, copper, vitamin B1 and some iron. KELP Kelp contains over 60 minerals and elements, 21 amino acids and simple and complex carbohydrates, which promotes glandular health, especially the pituitary, adrenal and thyroid glands. Kelp supplies a natural source of iodine and acts as an antibiotic to kill germs. ALFALFA Alfalfa helps the body assimilate protein, calcium and other nutrients. This herb is a body cleanser, infection fighter and natural deodorizer. It is the richest land source of trace minerals and contains vitamins A, C, E, K, B and D. Alfalfa also contains bioflavonoids, and eight digestive enzymes to promote proper assimilation of foods. KEFIR The history of kefir is centuries old. The word "kefir" is said to have originated from the word "keif" which means" good feeling". Kefir is like yogurt, but with a greater variety of cultures and significant health benefits. Unlike yogurt, which typically contains only two or three different bacteria, true kefir contains a greater range of different microorganisms, each with its own unique contribution. This is what separates kefir from all other cultured milk products. Kefir is made by fermentation of "kefir" grains, which resemble minute cauliflowers. The grains consist of casein and colonies of microorganisms that are grown together symbiotically. Kefir can only be made from pre-existing grains. Cultured kefir produces antimicrobial activity against a wide variety of gram positive and gram negative bacteria, helping to eliminate destructive pathogenic yeast and internal parasites. Cultured kefir also contains a unique extract of colostrum. All mammals produce colostrum, sometimes called "first milk" or "foremilk". Research has shown that concentrated forms of colostrum are able to block the effects of harmful pathogens and aid in the maintenance of a healthy intestinal tract. Colostrum also contains other nonspecific immune factors including lactoferrin and lactoperoxidase, which help control pathogens or harmful bacteria. These natural immune components can recognize and resist multiple species of common bacteria such as E. coli, Staphylococci, Streptococci, Klebsiella, Enterococci, Pseudomonas, Clostridium Difficile, and Cryptosporidium. Kefir is considered to be one of the richest sources of enzymes. It plays a vital role in the development of a healthy digestive tract and helps improve the immune system. Kefir contains minerals and essential amino acids, an abundance of calcium and magnesium. Rich in vitamin B1, B12, calcium, amino acids, folic acid and vitamin K, it is an excellent source of biotin which aids the body's assimilation of other B vitamins. Other benefits include bowel regularity and decreased lactose intolerance. Evidence shows that the appropriate strains of lactic acid bacteria in fermented milk products can alleviate symptoms of lactose intolerance by providing bacterial lactase to the intestine and stomach. Kefir is recommended to restore intestinal flora while recovering from illness or when being treated with antibiotics. It eliminates unwanted toxins and pollutants in the body, just like antioxidants do with free radicals. Kefir enjoys a rich tradition of health claims and is known around the world for its preventative characteristics |
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Thanks for posting all of this!
![]() As you know Lilly (and Riley) have both started on the raw diet and so far I am very pleased with it! I am confident they will do really well with it. I just wish I had started Lilly on it years ago! |
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I have two 2 year olds now. They've both been on raw for a year since we got them. They both have good health. I wish I had known about Raw too, before ever owning the Sibe though. |
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Feeding a more natural diet to our dogs has improved their quality of life immensely.
It only makes sense to eat a natural diet, for dogs, horses and people. It helps solve many health issues and prevents others. It's more work but the end result far out weights the trouble of making it. I call it a labour of love every month when I have to make my Raw veggie mix
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