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Salmonella in dogs

I was going to post this earlier but I didn't want to swamp the health section today but since the topic came up here it is:

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What is Salmonella?

Samonella is a member of the family Enterobacteriaceae and is closely related to species of E. coli. and Shigella. There are over 2500 known serovars, with the most familiar being Salmonella enteritidis and Salmonella typhimurium. From our perspective Salmonella enteritidis and related serovars are of particular importance because they are the bacteria most commonly associated with cases of food-borne gastroenteritis (1).
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How is Salmonella transmitted?

Infection occurs by eating food that is contaminated either from the source animal during slaughter or through cross-contamination during handling and preparation of the food (8). Improper hygiene can also be a source of contamination. Proper hand washing and sanitation of the area used during cooking can prevent bacteria from being introduced by the individual preparing the meal (7). Studies with humans show an infectious dose of 105 organisms, however infection can occur at lower doses in individuals who are immunocompromised such as infants, small children or the elderly (1).


Pets as a source of contamination?

Is it possible to get Salmonella from our pets? Yes, but it is important to look at how this transmission occurs. Approximately 36% of healthy dogs and 17% of healthy cats carry Salmonella in their digestive tract and therefore may shed the bacteria in their stool (4). They do after all walk around sniffing each other rear ends, routing through garbage and commonly come into contact with the feces of other animals. The transmission to humans occurs through the fecal-oral route in which bacteria get on your hands after contact with your pet’s stool. If proper hand washing practices do not exist it can then be transmitted to your food or ingested directly through contact with your mouth.
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Great info to put in the folder! And trust me You wouldnt want you dog to get it the mess is soo soo bad!
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Old 11-08-2005, 02:50 PM
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Can raw food contain Salmonella?

Yes, it is possible for it to become contaminated with Salmonella<SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: normal">, but some people advocate avoidance first without considering at all the facts. Firstly dogs have a very acidic stomach (pH >1), an environment that is not friendly to any bacteria. Salmonella cannot survive at that pH level and at minimum needs a pH of 4 or higher to grow. Optimal growth doesn’t occur until the environment reaches the pH range of 6.5-7.5 (7). Secondly, there are differences between the length of our digestive tract (8-9m) and that of a dog’s digestive tract (3-4m). This indicates a shorter transient time between intake and excretion and decreases the time that the bacteria have contact with our digestive system. The shorter the transient time the less likely it is that Salmonella can break through the gastrointestinal barrier and enter our system. Also important to note is the differences in the digestion of carbohydrates (significant because of the high grain content in dry dog food). Humans have a-amylase, an enzyme dogs lack, in their saliva that starts digesting carbohydrates as soon as they enter our system. Dogs do not start to digest any carbohydrates they eat until it reaches their stomach with the majority of digestion taking place in their small intestine (4). The high percentage of carbohydrate in most dry dog food leads to situations where the food stays in the system longer (8-12 hours). However because a raw diet is meat based takes about half the time to digest (4-6 hours), thereby limiting the time that any possible bacteria may exposed to their system (2).

Here at Mountain Dog Food preliminary testing is being carried out in an attempt to show what is occurring in the stomach of a dog during digestion. A solution of hydrochloric acid at a pH of 1, similar to that of the canine stomach, is prepared and samples of dog food (both raw and dry food) are added with the resultant pH being tested intermittently over time. Results have been graphed and can be seen in Figure 1.

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Great info I agree.
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While both samples show changes to the pH level the dry food sample shows movement across the scale towards a pH of 6, whereas the raw food levels off at a pH of approximately 3. Since dry food takes longer to digest, and therefore remains in the stomach longer this trend towards a more basic environment may have an impact upon the digestion of the food. This may be significant since the pH of a dog’s stomach is one of the important barriers in Salmonella resistance. Results may give some indication of the differences between how dogs digest a raw meat based diet and a dry grain based one. While the findings may direct further study it is too early to tell if the results are statistically significant at this point.

One popular study done by Joffe and Schlesinger assesses the risk of Salmonella in dogs fed a raw diet. While the study does show positive results for Salmonella in 80% of the raw food and 30% of the stools sampled from dogs fed raw diets there are aspects that are overlooked in regards to these results and the study itself (6). The size of the study (10 raw fed and 10 kibble fed dogs) and number of samples taken (one stool and one food sample per dog) are too small to be statistically significant. As well the results may be biased since the owners were aware of the studies purpose ahead of time and they were also responsible for collecting the samples. The paper fails to show if measures were taken to control how the food was thawed, holding temperatures (i.e. did the food sit out for extended periods at room temp before sample was taken?), and sanitary practices surrounding feeding. Sanitation alone could be a huge contributing factor to the positive test result for Salmonella especially in the raw dog food. If feeding bowls, contact surfaces and utensils used were not properly cleaned after each meal bacteria could be introduced to fresh product that it comes into contact with. Independent tests done by PBR Laboratories on our raw food products have yet to this date show a positive test result for Salmonella.

It is also interesting to note that his findings give some credence the theory that a dog’s digestive system can handle exposure to Salmonella. Of the 8 samples of raw food that tested positive for Salmonella only one of the three positive stool samples correlates back to the same species of Salmonella found in the food. In the remaining dogs the Salmonella was either dealt with by their system and was not present in their stool or was already in their gut microflora and was expelled in their stool. The positive results in 30% of the stool samples for dogs fed raw does not come as a surprise seeing that 36% of healthy dogs, regardless of diet, have Salmonella in their digestive tract (4). It was actually more surprising that none of the dogs fed a dry diet tested positive for Salmonella. Joffe states in his paper that feeding raw meat to dogs is a “public health concern” (6). However, oral and **** swabs taken from some of our dogs exclusively fed a raw diet all gave negative results for the presence of Salmonella.

Admittedly these results need to be replicated at a level that is statistically significant. However they do give evidence to contest his conclusion that dogs fed a raw diet are a health risk. His study fails to prove unequivocally that dogs fed a raw diet are a greater health concern than any other potential sources of contamination in our day to day environment. While we don’t discredit the basis behind his work we feel that more definitive and statistically significant findings need to be produced before proclaiming a public health concern.

How can Salmonellosis be prevented in raw fed animals?

The point that cannot be emphasized enough in this matter is proper hygiene when dealing with Salmonella from any source (3,5). The following are some guidelines that, if followed, would greatly minimize the risk of infection:

Store raw food in the freezer and thaw in the refrigerator

Properly wash hands, all bowls, utensils and contact surfaces after handling raw food

Limit time food is held at room temperature during feeding to less than 2 hours and dispose of food left out for periods longer than this (i.e. do not feed using a free-choice method where food is out and available at all times)

After contact with animal feces wash your hands warm water and soap
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That was a pain to copy but there is thier study on Samonella in dogs.


Very interesting stuff.
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Great info to put in the folder! And trust me You wouldnt want you dog to get it the mess is soo soo bad!
Yes, I bet it is a pain to clean up. I know what it is like to come home to a huge mess.

Salmonella is known to kill horses. I have a friend in FL who had a young horse die from salmonella poisoning.
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Yes, I bet it is a pain to clean up. I know what it is like to come home to a huge mess.

Salmonella is known to kill horses. I have a friend in FL who had a young horse die from salmonella poisoning.
Me too my friends horse got it, and I had to kneel on his neck while he was put to sleep, i gave the vet ****!

Pearl got it from steeling eggs from the farm and was ill for days
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