UPDATE!!! Ivermectin Sensitivity Test Ordered!

[RoughCollies]

Well, seeing as we apparantly can't get Mitaban right now (vet tried to order) and I HATE the idea of pouring insectiside all over my dog, we just ordered the ivermectin sensitivity test for Dixie. If it comes back negative, then we'll go on with treatment. If it comes back positive, then I guess we'll have to keep trying other things.

http://www.vetmed.wsu.edu/depts-VCPL/test.aspx

[Maliraptor]

Good luck! I wasn't following this, but the test sounds great. In a choice between mitaban and Ivermectin oral dosing, I'd pick the ivermectin. (Assuming the dog was not sensitive, or course!)

I assume this is for Demodectic Mange? Big assumption, so correct me if I am wrong, please.

[RoughCollies]

Yep, Demodex. Dixie is a rough collie (hmmm... big surprise) with a decently bad case. She's MUCH better now since I got her about a month ago, but we want those mites DEAD, not just controlled.

[Maliraptor]

I worked at a clinic in Boston that used to use LymeDip for this- it was so caustic/toxic you had to wear heavy rubber gloves, and eye goggles to do it.
I had an accident once with a dog, that caused some to leak down through the top of my goggles and into my eye. I had to be taken to the Emergency clinic.
Through all this I kept thinking- "What is this doign to the PET's skin!"

I had a Dutch Shepherd I rescued a few years back that had Demodex. Not a Collie, obviously, but the Ivermectin worked beautifully.

[borzoimom]

Originally Posted by RoughCollies

Yep, Demodex. Dixie is a rough collie (hmmm... big surprise) with a decently bad case. She's MUCH better now since I got her about a month ago, but we want those mites DEAD, not just controlled.

Roxy- are you trying the immune support information I sent to you? It really made a huge difference with jazzy..

[RoughCollies]

Originally Posted by Draco

I worked at a clinic in Boston that used to use LymeDip for this- it was so caustic/toxic you had to wear heavy rubber gloves, and eye goggles to do it.
I had an accident once with a dog, that caused some to leak down through the top of my goggles and into my eye. I had to be taken to the Emergency clinic.
Through all this I kept thinking- "What is this doign to the PET's skin!"

I had a Dutch Shepherd I rescued a few years back that had Demodex. Not a Collie, obviously, but the Ivermectin worked beautifully.

That's what the first vet suggested and I declined. I'd rather not destroy my puppy when there are other, less toxic ways to fix it.

Originally Posted by borzoimom

Roxy- are you trying the immune support information I sent to you? It really made a huge difference with jazzy..

Yes, mam!

[AtomicSkies]

Originally Posted by Draco

I worked at a clinic in Boston that used to use LymeDip for this- it was so caustic/toxic you had to wear heavy rubber gloves, and eye goggles to do it.
I had an accident once with a dog, that caused some to leak down through the top of my goggles and into my eye. I had to be taken to the Emergency clinic.
Through all this I kept thinking- "What is this doign to the PET's skin!"

I had a Dutch Shepherd I rescued a few years back that had Demodex. Not a Collie, obviously, but the Ivermectin worked beautifully.

i was recently looking at flea and tick shampoos and there was one that said a couple times not to allow it to touch your skin and if it did ti rinse right away...i was like uh...why would i want to put this on my dog then?

[Deidre]

Usually there are underlying reasons as to why certain dogs are predisposed to demodectic mange and one of those reasons is that basically DM is a genetic fault. It can sometimes be treated with some success but it's not just a case of getting rid of the mites. It’s a definite fact that demodectic mange is an immune problem, making it more complicated to treat. Underlying causes that weaken the immune system and make your pet more susceptible to mange include: heartworm, cancer, hypothyroidism and chronic use of cortisone. I would personally ask for a blood test to eradicate the possibility that she may have any of these ailments. Hopefully this isn't the case and I do wish you the best of luck as I am in the same boat with a maremma sheepdog that I have had for the last 12 mths, she came to me with DM and I have tried various things without success so after the festivities I will be having her thoroughly checked out for any underlying reasons.

Also please do NOT vaccinate a dog with DM as the vaccinating compromises the immune system which, in dogs with DM it is already compromised so hence will only make the condition even worse.

Here is a link that you will find warns against vaccinating dogs with DM. It also encourages to feed highly nutritious foods but there isn't any need to follow this to the letter, I give my girl brewers yeast, fish oil along with a raw diet but as previously mentioned I will be having her thoroughly checked out for any underlying reasons as to why she has this terrible ailment.

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http://www.akitarescue.com/demodecti..._treatment.htm

[RoughCollies]

Dog Name: Dixie
Dog Breed: Collie
Test Result: Mutant/Normal



Explanation of test results:

Normal/Normal- These dogs do not carry the mutation, and will not pass on the mutation to their offspring. These dogs would not be expected to experience unexpected adverse drug reactions to normal doses of ivermectin, loperamide (Imodium®), and some anticancer drugs.

Mutant/Mutant- These dogs carry the mutation and can not pass on a normal gene to their offspring. These dogs would be expected to experience toxicity after normal doses of loperamide (Imodium®), some anticancer drugs, and high doses of ivermectin (greater than 50 micrograms per kilogram).

Mutant/Normal- These dogs carry the mutation and may pass on the mutant gene to their offspring. These dogs
may experience toxicity after normal doses of loperamide (Imodium®), some anticancer drugs, and high doses of ivermectin (greater than 50 micrograms per kilogram).




OK! So, what now?? She may not be affected?!?!!? UGH!!!

Any thoughts? She's getting worse.

[weezyNollie]

Did the doctor say what dose was needed? The description says high dosages. Try a lower dose?