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TPLO Surgery

Not 100 percent positive, but I am pretty sure Dante will have to have this surgery. His brother had both legs done. I have been reading and reading about this and I think I understand the procedure, but I am having trouble understanding exactly what is torn and where, if that makes since.

I understand the the stifle joint is sloped and the bones don't sit level with each other and slide. So they cut the tibia bone and use a plate and pins and make it level, then they repair the torn ligament, is this right? I am just trying to wrap my brain around exactly what is going to happen.


I know the after care is a major part of the healing process, and keeping him off this leg is going to be very hard. I am not sure if I am up to this, but it doesn't matter, what has to be done, has to be done to get my boy right again.


Apollo is going in today to check out his lump, and while I am there I am going to schedule Dante's xrays, and then we will go from there. When it rains it pours.
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Not 100% sure if this is what your talking about but if it is i hope this helps you understand

Ruptured Anterior (Cranial) Cruciate Ligament


First, the Basics

The knee is a fairly complicated joint. It consists of the femur above, the tibia below, the kneecap (or patella) in front, and the bean-like fabellae behind. Chunks of cartilage called the medial and lateral menisci fit between the femur and tibia like cushions. Assorted ligaments hold everything together and allow the knee to bend the way it should and keep it from bending the way it shouldn’t.


There are two cruciate ligaments that cross inside the knee joint: the anterior (or, more correctly in animals, cranial) cruciate and the posterior (or, more correctly in animals, the caudal) cruciate. They are named for the side of the knee (front or back) where their lower attachment is found. The anterior cruciate ligament prevents the tibia from slipping forward out from under the femur.
Finding the Rupture
The ruptured cruciate ligament is the most common knee injury in dogs; in fact, chances are that any dog with sudden rear leg lameness has a ruptured anterior cruciate ligament rather than something else. The history usually involves a rear leg that is suddenly so sore that the dog can hardly bear weight on it. If left alone, the leg will appear to improve over the course of a week or two but the knee will be notably swollen and arthritis will set in quickly. Dogs are seen by the veterinarian in either the acute stage (shortly after the injury) or in the chronic stage (weeks or months later).

The key to the diagnosis of the ruptured cruciate ligament is the demonstration of an abnormal knee motion called a drawer sign. It is not possible for a normal knee to show this sign.
The Drawer Sign

The veterinarian stabilizes the position of the femur with one hand and manipulates the tibia with the other hand. If the tibia moves forward like a drawer being opened, the cruciate ligament is ruptured.
Another test that can be used is the tibial compression test where the veterinarian stabilizes the femur with one hand and flexes the ankle with the other hand. If the ligament is ruptured, again the tibia moves abnormally forward.

If the rupture occurred some time ago, there will be swelling on side of the knee joint that faces the other leg. This is called a medial buttress and is a sign that arthritis is well along.
It is not unusual for animals to be tense or frightened at the veterinarian’s office. Tense muscles can temporarily stabilize the knee, preventing demonstration of the drawer sign during examination. Often sedation is needed to get a good evaluation of the knee. This is especially true with larger dogs. Eliciting a drawer sign can be difficult if the ligament is only partially ruptured so a second opinion with an orthopedic specialist is a good idea if the initial examination is inconclusive.
Since arthritis can set in relatively quickly after a cruciate ligament rupture, radiographs (x-rays) to assess arthritis are helpful. Another reason for radiographs is that occasionally when the cruciate ligament tears, a piece of bone where the ligament attaches to the tibia also breaks off. This will require repair and the surgeon will need to know about it before beginning surgery. Arthritis that has set in prior to surgery limits the extent of the recovery after surgery, though surgery is still needed to slow or even curtail further arthritis development.
How this Happens
There are several clinical pictures seen with ruptured cruciates. One is a young athletic dog playing roughly who takes a bad step and injures the knee while playing. This is usually a sudden lameness in a young large-breed dog.
A recent study identified the following breeds as being particularly at risk for this phenomenon: Neapolitan mastiff, Newfoundland, Akita, St. Bernard, Rottweiler, Chesapeake Bay retriever, and American Staffordshire terrier.

On the other hand, an older large dog, especially if overweight, can have weakened ligaments and slowly stretch or partially tear them. The partial rupture may be detected or the problem may not become apparent until the ligament breaks completely. In this type of patient, stepping down off the bed or a small jump can be all it takes to break the ligament. The lameness may be acute but have features of more chronic joint disease or the lameness may simply be a more gradual/chronic problem.
Larger overweight dogs that rupture one cruciate ligament frequently rupture the other one within a year’s time. An owner should be prepared for another surgery in this time frame.

What Happens if the Cruciate Rupture is Not Surgically Repaired

(almost) normal damagedWithout an intact cruciate ligament, the knee is unstable. Wear between the bones and meniscal cartilage becomes abnormal, and the joint begins to develop degenerative changes. Bone spurs called osteophytes develop, resulting in chronic pain and loss of joint motion. This process can be arrested by surgery but cannot be reversed.
  • Osteophytes are evident as soon as 1 to 3 weeks after the rupture in some patients. This kind of joint disease is substantially more difficult for a large breed dog to bear though all dogs will ultimately show degenerative changes. Typically, after several weeks from the time of the acute injury, the dog may appear to get better but is not likely to become permanently normal.
  • In one study, a group of dogs was studied for 6 months after cruciate rupture. At the end of 6 months, 85% of dogs under 30 lbs of body weight had regained near normal or improved function, while only 19% of dogs over 30 lbs had regained near normal function. Both groups of dogs required at least 4 months to show maximum improvement.
What Happens in Surgical Repair?
There are three different surgical repair techniques commonly used, and a fourth method that has fallen out of favor in recent years.
Extracapsular Repair
Lateral orthopedic wire is shown taking the place of the anterior cruciate ligament. Usually thick suture is used rather than wire but for illustrative purposes the wire shows where the suture would be placed around the knee. This procedure is currently favored as the surgery can be performed in a relatively shorter time than the other procedures. The knee joint is opened and inspected. The torn or partly torn cruciate ligament is removed. Any bone spurs of significant size are bitten away with an instrument called a rongeur. If the meniscus is torn, the damaged portion is removed. A large, strong suture is passed around the fabella behind the knee and through a hole drilled in the front of the tibia. This tightens the joint to prevent the drawer motion, effectively taking over the job of the cruciate ligament.
  • Typically, the dog may carry the leg up for a good 2 weeks after surgery but will increase knee use over the next 2 months, eventually returning to normal.
  • Typically, the dog will require 8 weeks of exercise restriction after surgery (no running, only outside on a leash, including the backyard).
  • The suture placed will break 2 to 12 months after surgery and the dog’s own healed tissue will hold the knee.
Tibial Plateau Leveling Osteotomy (TPLO)

This procedure uses a fresh approach to the biomechanics of the knee joint and is meant to address the lack of long-term success seen with the above technique in larger dogs. With this surgery, the tibia is cut and rotated in such a way that the natural weight bearing of the dog actually stabilizes the knee joint. As before, the knee joint still must be opened and damaged meniscus removed. The cruciate ligament remnants may or may not be removed depending on the degree of damage.
This surgery is complex and involves special training in this specific technique. Many radiographs are necessary to calculate the angle of the osteotomy (the cut in the tibia). At this time, the TPLO is felt by many experts to be the best way to repair a cruciate ligament rupture regardless of the size of the dog and is especially appropriate for dogs over 50 lbs. This surgery usually costs twice as much as the extracapsular method and requires a specialist.
  • Typically, most dogs are touching their toes to the ground by 10 days after surgery, although it can take up to 3 weeks.
  • As with other techniques, 8 weeks of exercise restriction are needed.
  • Full function is generally achieved 3 to 4 months after surgery and the dog may return to normal activity.
Tibial Tuberosity Advancement (TTA)

The TTA represents another take on how to use the biomechanics of the knee to create stabilization. The idea is that when the cruciate ligament is torn, the tibial plateau (the top of the tibia) and the patellar ligament should be repositioned at 90 degrees to one another to combat the shear force generated as the dog walks. To make this happen, the tibial tuberosity (front of the tibia where the patellar ligament attaches) is separated and anchored in its new position by a titanium or steel cage, fork, and plate. Bone grafts are used to assist healing. This procedure was developed in 2002 at the University of Zurich and since then over 20,000 patients worldwide have had this surgery. Some experts prefer it to the TPLO while others prefer the TPLO. Both procedures require specialized equipment and expertise.
  • Typically the leg is bandaged for a week after surgery.
  • The patient’s activity must be restricted and post-operative confinement is a must with gradually increased activity over 3 to 4 months. Most dogs can return to normal activity by 4 months after surgery.
Intracapsular Repair (sometimes still called over the top method)
We mention this procedure for its historical significance although it is not one of the “big three.” This procedure has fallen out of favor lately as it has been unable to demonstrate results superior to those of the extracapsular technique described above, though apparently it is still a popular repair method in the U.K.

Intracapsular repair intuitively seems like it should do better as it uses living tissue (rather than an artificial material) to essentially make a new ligament. This takes more time surgically. As with the extracapsular repair, the knee joint is opened, fragments of the ligament are removed, as is damaged meniscus. After this a strip of connective tissue is dissected locally and passed through the middle of the joint exactly where the cruciate ligament used to be. The new ligament is attached at the opposite end to an implant or simply sewn into place.
  • Bandaging for a couple of weeks after surgery is commonly recommended.
  • Again, the dog may not bear weight for a good 2 weeks after surgery and will likely require 2 months to return to normal function.
  • Again, 8 weeks of exercise restriction will be necessary for healing.
General Rehabilitation after Surgery
Rehabilitation following the extracapsular repair method can begin as soon as the pet goes home. The area can be chilled with a padded ice pack for 10 minutes a couple times daily. (Do not try to make up for a skipped treatment by icing the area longer; prolonged cold exposure can cause injury.) Passive range of motion exercise where the knee is gently flexed and extended can also help. It is important not to induce pain when moving the limb. Let the patient guide you. Avoid twisting the leg. After the stitches or staples are out (or after the skin has healed in about 10-14 days), water treadmill exercise can be used if a facility is available. This requires strict observation and, if possible, the patient should wear a life jacket. Walking uphill or on stairs is helpful for strengthening the back legs but no running, jumping or other "explosive" type exercise should be performed for a full three months after surgery. Rehabilitation for patients with intracapsular repair is similar but slower in progression.
Rehabilitation after TPLO or TTA is gentler. Icing as above and rest are the main modes of therapy. After 3 to 4 weeks, an increase in light activity can be introduced. A water treadmill is helpful. No jumping, running or stair-climbing is allowed at first. Expect the osteotomy site to require a good 6 weeks to heal.
What if the Rupture Isn’t Discovered for Years and Joint Disease is Already Advanced?
A dog with arthritis pain from an old cruciate rupture may still benefit from a TPLO surgery and possibly from the TTA. It may be worth having a surgery specialist take a look at the knee. Most cases must make do with medical management. Visit our section on arthritis treatment.
Meniscal Injury
We mentioned the meniscus as part of the knee joint. The bones of all joints are capped with cartilage so as provide a slippery surface where the bones contact each other (if the bones contact each other without cartilage, they grind each other down). In addition to these cartilage caps, the stifle joint has two “blocks” of cartilage in-between the bones. These blocks are called the menisci and serve to distribute approximately 65% of the compressive load delivered to the knee. The only other joint with a meniscus is the jaw (tempero-mandibular joint).
When the crucial ligament ruptures, the medial (on the inner side of the knee) meniscus frequently tears and must either be removed, partly removed, or - ideally - repaired. This is generally done at the time of cruciate ligament surgery and we would be remiss not to mention it.
Pets with meniscal damage may have an audible clicking sound when they walk or when the knee is examined, but for a definitive diagnosis the menisci must actually be inspected during surgery. It is difficult to access the menisci and thus repairing a tear in the meniscus is problematic; furthermore, poor blood supply to the menisci also makes good healing less likely. For these reasons, removal of the damaged portion of the meniscus is the most common surgical choice. This leaves some meniscus behind to distribute the compression load on the knee but removes the painful, ineffective portion.
Areas of current research include techniques to improve blood supply to the healing meniscus so that repair can be more feasible. If meniscal damage has occurred in a cruciate rupture, arthritis is inevitable and surgery should be considered a palliative procedure.
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This is a fabulous reference post. I would suggest asking the mods to make it a sticky that will make it a permanent post in the dog health portion of the forum. Thanks for posting this. This is great info for when your vet suggests knee surgery!

I went through bi-lateral knee surgery with my 10 year-old Poodle last fall.

The hardest and most challenging part by far is keeping them quiet for 3-4 months afterwards.
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This is a fabulous reference post. I would suggest asking the mods to make it a sticky that will make it a permanent post in the dog health portion of the forum. Thanks for posting this. This is great info for when your vet suggests knee surgery!

I went through bi-lateral knee surgery with my 10 year-old Poodle last fall.

The hardest and most challenging part by far is keeping them quiet for 3-4 months afterwards.
how is he doing now?
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He's doing great now. I followed the after care instructions to a tee. I did the range of motion exercises twice a day (very gently), then did swimming and hydro-therapy for a while, and he was crated 24/7 unless he was tethered to my side laying down.

He had both knees done at the same time and there is some contraversy about this. I did it because of his age and I didn't want him to go under sedation twice.

I will warn you that the first couple of weeks really stink, especially if you have both knees done, but it gets better after that as long as you keep them quiet, which I would think would be even harder for larger dogs.

Also, one thing that helped a lot was that, along with Tramadol pain med, Bogey came home with a Fentanyl pain patch on his back that stayed there for 2-3 days. I would definately ask for that.

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Wow that was a great post! Thanks so much! I talked to my vet about it yesterday and he explained the part I didn't understand. It was the cruciate ligaments that I was missing. Totally got it now.


I agree this is a great reference especially since this is so common.



That is my biggest dread in all of this, is the aftercare. It is so crucial to their recovery, and Dante being extra large makes it even more difficult. I know my mom had a horrible time with his brother for a few weeks, she had to carry his weight which was 145# at that time.
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Wow that was a great post! Thanks so much! I talked to my vet about it yesterday and he explained the part I didn't understand. It was the cruciate ligaments that I was missing. Totally got it now.


I agree this is a great reference especially since this is so common.



That is my biggest dread in all of this, is the aftercare. It is so crucial to their recovery, and Dante being extra large makes it even more difficult. I know my mom had a horrible time with his brother for a few weeks, she had to carry his weight which was 145# at that time.
We bought a harness on-line that goes around their back legs near their behind. Then there's a handle where you hold them up off their back legs. This would probably require two people to manage for a big dog.

We had a lot of trouble getting Bogey to pee at first, and a really big problem getting him to poop, with us being so close to him. Each dog is different, but Bogey likes his space, which I couldn't give him. Luckily, he didn't have any steps to maneuver to get in/outside or we would have had to carry him.

He didn't pee for about 16 hours when we got him home. One more hour and he would have had to gone in for a catherization. I remember being outside in the middle of the night trying to get him to walk in this harness and using my most encouraging voice. I'm in my nightgown and my neighbor came out and said, "what the heck's going on over there?" I explained then he starting trying to get him to pee, too! I was sooooooo relieved when he finally peed!!

I look back and chuckle, but it really sucked at the time. Getting ready to buck up for this surgery, but the results are really worth it.

You just must follow the aftercare on this surgery. I know of four people now who had to get it redone because they didn't follow the instructions, plus, they had to wait util their dog fully healed before getting it done again. That would really s/uck.

If possible, it would be nice if you could be with him during the day for the first week. I know, easier said than done.

Another tip, some hospitals sent them home same day or one night later. I would have gone insane with that. Our surgeon ordered Bogey to stay
2 1/2 days and he still came home crying all night. No way would I have wanted to have to had cared for him on days one and two.

Dam/n dogs.
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