pup with worms

[watters1006]

I just took a beagle puppy in yesterday from a guy who works with my husband and the pup won't be 8 weeks old until the 13 of June!He already got rid of the others a week ago and they are eating dry puppy food,well she has worms bad and they never gave her anything for them.Should I give her a wormer myself or make a vet appt.?I am planning on taking her to the vet and get all her puppy shots too.We got her for my son he will be 13 in August and wanted a rabbit dog.If I keep her in the house will she still hunt?I feel bad putting her out side at only 6 weeks old even though her mother was tied to a box and the pups lied on the cold dirt.The owner said that you don't keep a hunting dog in the house.
thanks will post a pic of her in a few.
Tina

[watters1006]

pics of the puppy

[eXile]

The pup is adorble. Definitly WAY too young to even be away from her mother let alone left outside because she has a very weak immune system. She should see a vet soon.

I hope you dont feel that im being rude. I think shes just to young to take any chances.

[KellyJean]

I would worm the puppy myself if you have wormer, and otherwise get to the vet on monday or tuesday.

Your puppy is old enough for it's first distemper (it needs three). They can give it a general once over, and provide you with some wormer (I use nemex, I think) as well as heartworm meds, which you should start if possible, and some sort of anti-flea/tick stuff, which you should also start, if possible.

If you intend to leave this dog outside, you must provide it with good shelter. I don't think that there are rules about where the dog can or can't live if you want it to hunt. I want mine to do obediance and agility. I expect him to do it, regardless of if he's spending the night outside in his kennel or right next to my bed.

Kelly

[Moo]

Yes, an inside dog can be a good hunter dog. There is no reason why not. The owner said that a hunting dog can't be inside. The owner also sold you a tiny beagle puppy less than 6 weeks of age. There are members here who have gun dogs who are loving family dogs in the house as well.

Keep the baby inside, through puppy days, and for a small dog like a beagle, I'd just keep her inside. I think you'll have a much better time and be much more successful at training if the pup is kept inside with the people.

[BabyElephant]

I agree with everyone here, your pup is adorable, needs to get to a vet and can quite happily live in the house and still be a good hunting dog.

I personally wouldn't want my dog living outside even though Poppy was born and lived in outside kennels before she came to me at 8.5 weeks old. Her breeders had the outside facility for whelping and puppy raising and once that was done the mum came back in the house again - she is a fantastic gun dog too.

Whatever you decide about where she sleeps give her loads of love and attention and training and she'll be fine.

[watters1006]

I am keeping her inside until she is bigger,my Saint thinks it is her baby lol.I got hr for free,that is why I took her (and felt bad that she was so neglected) She is my sons dog and I will make sure she gets her shots too.The owner said all she really needed was worm meds but I made sure my saint got to the vet and she will be no different.I will start wormer meds tomarrow and set an appt. after that.My husband works on a farm and uses the vet that comes there.I can't believe that they were taken away from the mother so young either and it followed another dog off in the fields Thursday and didn't find it till Friday.I HAD to take her just can't think of a name.Thanks for all the help and will keep updaes on tis thread.
Tina

[Dog Watcher]

The only way I would leave a dog outside is if I had a huge pack of hunting dogs and they lived together. To leave a sociable animal such as a dog outside by itself is cruel. Did your breeder have many hunting dogs coexisting together outside?

As for the worms, many pups are born with round worms...for myself I like to use strongid T for a wormer for roundworms...you have to follow up treatment in 2 weeks after the first worming.

I would also take a stool sample into your vet when you go in for you vaccines and over all health check. The vet may give you Drontal plus for all types of worms including round, tape, fluke and then give your Strongid T for the roundworms to follow up in 2 weeks. I wouldn't use any wormers from a pet store, I would only get them from a Vet.

As for a hunting dog not learning to hunt because it lives inside is not true. Hunting dogs were bred with certain drives and predatory motor patterns which makes them perfect for hunting. You cannot delete these motor patterns (many people have tried, ask an owner of a working border collie haha) For hunting breeds, herding breeds etc you don't have to train them to do their job...just give them the chance to use their predatory drives which have been enhanced to perform their job. You should go on line and do a google search for people who hunt with their dogs and see what games they start playing with their pups to have them properly use the motor patterns they were bred for. The only way to delete motor patterns from a breed of dog is to purposely bred to dogs with lower drives and different enhanced drives.
As for the age of the pup, in my day way back when dinosaurs ran free haha. It was standard to adopt a pup at about 5-6 weeks of age. Now a day it's more common to wait until they are about 8-10 weeks. I never had any problems with pups I adopted at 5-6 weeks, they formed a much stronger bond with the family. We just had to insure we socialized them properly, which in my day we did as back at that time dogs and pups went every where with the kids. For some working dogs especially livestock herding dogs they are taken from the bitch very early on, just after weaning at about 2 1/2 - 3 weeks to live with the sheep they will protect. The pups form a bond with the sheep as their pack and are better at protecting them as they are no longer considered prey but pack members.

The person you adopted your pup from, do they provide adequate shelter for their outdoor dogs? do they house many dogs together for sociability? If you feel uneasy about the conditions these dogs are living in then I would be making an anonymous call to the SPCA to check up on the living conditions. Any cruelty towards creatures who cannot speak out for themselves should be reported.

Good luck with your new pup.

[comfort80]

what are symptoms of worms? giardia?

[Dog Watcher]

Comfort80, The signs of a Giardia infection is usually diarrhea, the diarrhea may be acute, intermittent, or chronic. Usually infected pups/dogs will not lose their appetite, but they may lose weight. The stools are often abnormal, being pale, have a bad odor and appear greasy. In the intestine, Giardia prevents proper absorption of nutrients and damages the delicate intestinal lining, and interferes with digestion. The worst thing about Giardiasis is it's very difficult to diagnose because the protozoa are so small and are not passed with every stool. So, you have to do Tests on a few stool samples (one stool sample every day for three days). There are a few Vet clinics which have a diagnostic test using ELISA technology. This test uses a very small fecal sample, and can be performed in 8 minutes in a veterinarian's office. It is much more accurate than a fecal examination.