The Breeding Debate

[Dax]

As suggested by another member (good idea btw)

This thread is to give members a place to voice thier opinions on this very important subject. Since this is not related to any individual or thier situation, it is not attacking anyone.

Rules.... with all good debates there will be rules.

Opinion are to be stated as opinions, facts are to be backed up with sources.
Personal experience given in this thread are subject to comment.

If you are unable to conduct yourself with respect to the opinions of others in this thread, I ask you refrain from posting. I am also attaching a poll to this thread - you may vote without comment.

If you would like to add an option to the above poll, let me know.

[Cali]

I belive breeding should be limited to those who prove their dogs through WORK, unless of coarse its atoy breed that has not orginal purpose, they should be proven through show lol

[NicoleLJ]

My opinion is all dogs that are being bred should be proven through some type of work. The small breeds can be proven with being therapy dogs and other such activities. All breeding dogs should also have all the relevent health tests done to prove that they are not passing on any genetic problems. And one last thing, anyone wanting to take on breeding should also be prepared to care for every puppy they create in case their is a problem where the original owners have to give it up so as not to add to the overpopulation of strays and such.
Nicole & Sheena

[GretaJack]

I will no longer express my opinion on breeding for a long time, because apparently I am too closed minded for some that can't deal with an opinion of one strong minded person.

[Deb's Tiny Dogs]

Don't give up Greta. Your opinion is important. And, in a debate, welcome! That's the only way non-breeders like me can learn about this important aspect of dog awareness. Please share.

[Dobified]

LOL GretaJack. I don't think so. Never mind the nay sayers. I want to hear you.


I believe and still do believe that dogs who are show quality or pure breds that have proven themselves should be bred. Dog breeding is about bettering the breed. Irresponsible dog breeding is filling up our shelters and to many dogs are dying. I am not saying pure breds don't end up there but if you pay hundreds to thousands for a dog that has papers you are much less likely to treat said dog as disposable. A sad reality. ( same goes for horses with papers ). Pure bred dogs were usually bred with a purpose, they were bred to do a task.


These part breds "designer dogs " are truely disgraceful, breeding a poodle to a doberman... sheesh, THEN these unscrupulous breeders want a 1000-10000 dollars for a dog. What do they think? We all fell of the turnip truck yesterday ? craziness, all money driven.

All I am saying is this. THINK. Think about what will happen if you breed your dog and where the puppies are going to end up.

I have volunteered at the Winnipeg Humane society, I have seen what happens to the dogs if they are not adopted. It is heartbreaking and anyone who has volunteered their time to one of these shelters understands what I am saying.

Ok that is my opinion.

[tessa_s212]

Dega, a rescue dog that I am training, was found in the animal shelter. My dog training instructors go there often to pick out dogs that they think they could rehabilitate and rehome. They continued going back to see if Dega was adopted. She went through 5 homes within 1 month! Everybody absolutely loved her at first(she is a great loving happy dog) but couldn't deal with the hyperactivity. She was knocking on death's door..so my dog training instructors took her in. Since then I have been training her in obedience and agility for a year and a half. She is one stubborn dog..and not very easy AT ALL to train. I remember the first week even training her I had hated her..she was very difficult. Still is. ...Although she's a major pain in the butt..I couldn't even imagine the little brat being dead right now. She may not be the best dog...but she deserved a loving home and a second chance(I do not own her. My dog training instructors do)...dogs like these are made because of carelessness.

And for that reason I believe that you should have to have a license for breeding. You should have to take a test that you are knowledgable, prove your dog(conformation, agility, herding, obedience, TDI, temperment..), prove that it is healthy, and so on.

[eXile]

I do agree 100 percent that only dogs that have shown themselves should be breed. But at the same time we have to acknowledge that a very HIGH percentage of dogs in the modern day DONT work. They are family campanions. Playing fetch isnt working! I find that some breeders arent as focused on physical ability as they are on looks.

Accidents happen with dogs just as they happen with humans. Its the sad truth. Like Dobified said, mixing designer breeds is just disgraceful. And the doberman-poodle is just embarasing.

I dont see anyhting wrong with someone who owns 2 dogs of the same breed that are registered and come from a reputable breeder, breeding. I mean all in all, what makes someone a breeder anyways? If they have homes for them, or space in there own house and can afford them financially then what is so wrong with that? OBviously the care for the pups will be a pain in the butt and as fellow members we can give them a heads up on things but thats just about all we can do. I mean look at Natalie. She has what, 11 dogs in her home? Some people would say "oh those poor dogs" thinking they are mistreated but do they know how much those dogs are carried for? Probably not. I say this because over time, I have assumed many things and its come back to slap me in the face.

Its when people randomly mix 2 dogs and sell them on the street to make a couple bucks disgusts me.

[mara]

In my opinion:
Health history including temperment should play a major part in the decision to breed. Breeding for money only should be against some sort of law as should breeding for "fun" which some people actually admit to. Breeding is a serious commitment that can require 24 hour attention for extended periods of time. The breeder has to have the financial means to get proper medical assistance for any emergency that should arise during the pregnancy, during labour and delivery and until the pups go to their new homes. Breeders should have a standard they adhere to when choosing families for the pups. Accidental pregnancy should not repeat itself. That's it for now, but knowing me I'll think of something else later.

[.Little Texas.]

I think breeders should have licences to breed their pets, and that the pets should be bred for their prupose